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Madd
07-17-2005, 05:54 PM
Haven't seen a post about this so far, so I ask:
What was your biggest downswing in terms of buy-ins?
I start the bidding with a 48.
(This is, of course, only interesting if you're a winning player in the corresponding limit.)

pearljam
07-17-2005, 05:55 PM
60 buy ins at the 10+1 (im a winner at the 30+3 level)

Mr_J
07-17-2005, 05:57 PM
"aven't seen a post about this so far,"

There have been plenty, just try the seach.

Yeh 48 is large, but other guys here have experienced that and worse.

To the guy above who said he lost 61 a the $11s, are you sure you're profitable??

Freudian
07-17-2005, 05:58 PM
40 buy-ins. Most of it was in one day. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

GtrHtr
07-17-2005, 05:58 PM
Why the difference do you think in your play at the 11s and the 33s?

Bluff Daddy
07-17-2005, 06:00 PM
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60 buy ins at the 10+1 (im a winner at the 30+3 level)

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if I lost $600 playing the 11's I would prob hang myself

The Don
07-17-2005, 06:01 PM
32 at the $11s was my most in a 1000 tourney sample
I have never had more than 20 in close to 1000 $22 tourneys

My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

AbelM
07-17-2005, 06:03 PM
16 at the 215's.

I'm lucky /images/graemlins/cool.gif

FieryJustice
07-17-2005, 06:06 PM
I lost 30 buyins 2 days ago in 90 sngs in the $215s...I am not lucky. Biggest was 60ish over about 300 sngs.

pearljam
07-17-2005, 06:07 PM
yea, im sure. it makes my penus shrink to remember that run.

Costanza
07-17-2005, 06:35 PM
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<font color="red">I didn't read the FAQ to see if this was discussed there or not first</font> so I ask:
What was your biggest downswing in terms of buy-ins?
I start the bidding with a 48.
(This is, of course, only interesting if you're a winning player in the corresponding limit.)

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FYP

valenzuela
07-17-2005, 06:44 PM
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My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

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Ure reasoning is wrong, the only way to have more variance with the same ROI and payout structure is with more first places.

astarck
07-17-2005, 06:51 PM
A couple 20-25x downswings at the 22s and 33s.

checksplay
07-17-2005, 06:58 PM
41 buy-ins at the 33's over 152 games. Suck.

gildwulf
07-17-2005, 07:00 PM
20 buy-ins at the 30...coincidentally at the same time as I tried to move up from the 20s to the 30s:) I guess that is relatively low but I've only been playing for like 4 months...lot of buy-ins to go...

The Don
07-17-2005, 07:30 PM
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My reasoning:
More loose calls at the 11s = more showdowns = more variance

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Ure reasoning is wrong, the only way to have more variance with the same ROI and payout structure is with more first places.

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Think of it this way:
At the 22s you ahve more FE and you are more likely to slowly build your stack with no risk by having everyone fold to you whne you move in.

At the 11s you are more likely to take more showdowns versus loose callers and build a stack more quickly. There is also a much higher risk you will bust out however.

valenzuela
07-17-2005, 07:35 PM
I wont waste my energies on something that has been discussed 40000 times, search for irieguy posts instead.

Madd
07-17-2005, 07:40 PM
I have seen discussions about variance, I have participated in discussions about variance, I have run simulations etc.
But that is the theory. When it comes to the true, hard practice I'd like to know what the 2+2-pros experienced in the real life.
If you know a thread about it could you link it, please.

wulfheir
07-17-2005, 07:58 PM
16 over 86 games at the $11s

Sponger15SB
07-17-2005, 08:12 PM
20 buy ins at the $55s in one day.

Next morning at the $33s I won 10, then lost 30 in the afternoon.

That was fun.

johnnybeef
07-17-2005, 08:29 PM
50

gildwulf
07-17-2005, 08:31 PM
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50

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You win.

The Yugoslavian
07-17-2005, 08:44 PM
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50

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You win.

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Giga has had bigger downswings than this if my memory serves me right....although there is a chance that beefy had a bigger overlay in whatever buyin level he's talking about than Giga did (I doubt it though...beefy most likely would have been more affected by the bad variance anyway...plus I'm not sure his edge is bigger anyway).

Yugoslav

raptor517
07-17-2005, 09:01 PM
59 at the 215s. this was literally 2 days after going up 18k in a stretch of 200. my stomach hurt for about a week. then i quit again. holla

DonButtons
07-18-2005, 12:22 AM
70 buy ins down at 109s over 300-400 sngs, and right after a 50 buyin up-swing over a stretch of 87 sngs, then up again...but that sucked

raptor517
07-18-2005, 01:59 AM
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70 buy ins down at 109s over 300-400 sngs, and right after a 50 buyin up-swing over a stretch of 87 sngs, then up again...but that sucked

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damn you suck, i thought u were good.. /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

JayKon
07-18-2005, 02:17 AM
Wow! I feel much better after reading this thread. I only play 1-2 ($11's) a day during the week and lost 12 in a row before starting to win again. I was begining to think I really sucked and had just had a long lucky streak.

Ain't variance grand!

raptor517
07-18-2005, 02:20 AM
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Ain't variance grand!

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actually, no. it sucks huge nuts. id love to make 15-20 dollars per tournament no swings. holla

Karak567
07-18-2005, 02:20 AM
35

07-18-2005, 02:27 AM
I've played over 500 sngs on pp and had a bad swing while playing in the 10+1 and 20+2 games, probably for 50-60 games but all is back to normal.

JayKon
07-18-2005, 02:30 AM
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Ain't variance grand!

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actually, no. it sucks huge nuts. id love to make 15-20 dollars per tournament no swings. holla

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Yea, thats truth. I was trying to be polite.

bluefeet
07-18-2005, 02:33 AM
officially?

zero.

recording OTM's are detrimental to my ego. of course trying to maintain an official '100ITM' brings about stresses of it's own. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

11t
07-18-2005, 02:43 AM
'100ITM' ?

bluefeet
07-18-2005, 02:51 AM
100% ITM?.....'don't record OTMs'?, Bueller? Anyone?

Just funnin. I'm on zero sleep and actually have to work a j.o.b. in 4 hours /images/graemlins/frown.gif

For the record: 11 OTM's. Don't keep 'buy-in drops' on my archaic spreadsheet.

Ixnert
07-18-2005, 10:59 AM
32 buyins in 36 tournaments at the 30s late last week. (Two runs of 11 OTM and a 12, interrupted only by two thirds.) Somewhat softened by the +45 buyin run-up in about the same number of tournaments before that (though some of the +45 were 20s rather than 30s, so the up and downswings were close to the same).

As nice as the upswing was, I'd rather have just made a steady 15% per tournament...