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ajohnson16
07-17-2005, 04:48 AM
A little backround... Playing one-table 22 on FullTilt... 20 hands in and I haven't seen a flop yet (both blinds were raised and I had junk so tossed it)...

HAND 1

FullTiltPoker Game #157175145: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (977878), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:20:57 ET - 2005/07/17
Seat 1: random (2,150)
Seat 2: random (950)
Seat 3: VILLIAN(3,785)
Seat 4: random (1,025)
Seat 5: random (3,405)
Seat 7: HERO (1,335)
Seat 9: random (850)
random posts the small blind of 25
VILLIAN posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif]
random folds
random folds
HERO raises to 250
random folds
random folds
random folds
VILLIAN calls 200
*** FLOP *** [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
VILLIANchecks
HERO bets 300
VILLIANcalls 300
*** TURN *** [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
VILLIANchecks
HERO bets 300
VILLIANfolds
Uncalled bet of 300 returned to HERO
HERO mucks
HERO wins the pot (1,125)
The blinds are now 30/60
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,125 | Rake 0
Board: [T/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif]
Seat 1: random(button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: random(small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: VILLIAN(big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: random didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: random didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: HERO collected (1,125), mucked
Seat 9: random didn't bet (folded)

Scary flop but I bet for information, was thinking of checking the turn which might've paid off but...

HAND 2
FullTiltPoker Game #157175560: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (977878), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:21:52 ET - 2005/07/17
Seat 1: random (2,150)
Seat 2: random (925)
Seat 3: VILLIAN 1 (3,235)
Seat 4: random (1,025)
Seat 5: VILLIAN 2 (3,405)
Seat 7: HERO (1,910)
Seat 9: random (850)
ateoneate posts the small blind of 30
ctuswatleader1 posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to menbiller [A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
VILLIAN 2 calls 60
HERO raises to 250
random folds
random folds
random folds
VILLIAN 1 calls 220
random folds
VILLIAN 2 calls 190
*** FLOP *** [3/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif]
VILLIAN 1 has 15 seconds left to act
VILLIAN 1 bets 810
VILLIAN 2 raises to 3,155, and is all in
HERO calls 1,660, and is all in
VILLIAN 1 calls 2,175, and is all in
VILLIAN 2 shows [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
HERO shows [A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif]
VILLIAN 1 shows [9/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif]
Uncalled bet of 170 returned to Jack Random
*** TURN *** [3/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif] [T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif]
*** RIVER *** [3/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif Tc T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] [7/images/graemlins/club.gif]
VILLIAN 2 shows three of a kind, Tens
VILLIAN 1 shows a flush, Queen high
VILLIAN 1 wins the side pot (2,650) with a flush, Queen high
HERO shows two pair, Aces and Tens
VILLIAN 1 wins the main pot (5,790) with a flush, Queen high
HERO stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,440 Main pot 5,790. Side pot 2,650. | Rake 0
Board: [3/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif]
Seat 1: random didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: random (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: VILLIAN 1 (small blind) showed [9/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif] and won (8,440) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 4: random (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: VILLIAN 2 showed [T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: HERO showed [A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 9: random didn't bet (folded)

This is the one I think I totally misplayed... I didn't raise enough preflop but I wanted to keep a hand like Ax or two face cards in and act after the flop... Didn't expect both of those guys to play the flop that way, and they didn't play it well, I just got sucked out...

Anyways, how do you guys think I played these hands?

Superfluous Man
07-17-2005, 12:56 PM
Hand 1: I check the turn and hope he hits a straight or a flush (not both /images/graemlins/tongue.gif). Of course, if he had a draw to a straight flush he'd probably have gotten his chips in anyway, so just check and hope the free card makes him a hand with which he'll pay you off.

Hand 2: Unless I'm missing something, this is just a bad beat. Get better at fading people's outs.

lastchance
07-17-2005, 01:08 PM
Hand 1) Push the damn flop. You really don't want a nine or king to show up, let alone another spade. You have top set. t600 in the pot, t1000 behind. Push. You're going to get action here. Making multiple bets just shows more strength.

But I'd bet 3x BB preflop which would make betting less on the flop better.

Bigwig
07-17-2005, 01:15 PM
Hand 1--I don't think it's necessary to raise 5BB preflop. Nice flop. Why bet 300? This is a perfect time to slowplay. What are you worried about? Straight flushes? 4 J's? Slow it down on the flop. Give your opponent the chance to bluff the turn, or hit an A.

Hand 2--What do you mean, you didn't raise enough preflop? That was just fine. On the flop, you got all your money in with the best hand. This is the 10000000 my AA got cracked that's been posted. This happens to me 5 times a week. Move on.

Bigwig
07-17-2005, 01:17 PM
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Hand 1) You really don't want a nine or king to show up, let alone another spade. You have top set.

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What? He's got a full house. I'd love a spade, nine, or K to show up.

Jay36489
07-17-2005, 04:02 PM
hero has QQ on a *** FLOP *** [T Q J]

Fatdogs12
07-17-2005, 04:10 PM
He is talking about the flop. I agree of course they could have always flopped the nut straight already with AK but you cna't worry about that.

ajohnson16
07-18-2005, 06:08 AM
Yeah... I bet the flop to get a K or 9 off the hand, I think two spades will call almost every time but...

I wish I would've checked the turn but...

Second hand, I guess I just don't like it... It sucked though that both hands beat me... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Bigwig
07-18-2005, 06:12 AM
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hero has QQ on a *** FLOP *** [T Q J]

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Oops.
I read it different. Twice.

My bad.