Tipping at Dinner

[casinogosain]

A recent run of expensive meals with lots of wine and a separate run of really bad service has me thinking...

[Maulik]

i always include alcohol.

[Diggslick]

One (soon to be former) waiter's informed opinion:

To me the % of the bill is not as important as how it was servered. At 25%, you should still be tipping on alcohol. The I idea that you don't tip on alcohol never really existed. When dining out was truly a luxury reserved only for the upper class, You didn't tip the WAITER on alcohol, as there was a wine stewart /Semalier(sp?) that you tipped a smaller percentage. If your drinks equal a large percentage of the bill, but were served one, or around at a time, then they were basically as labor intensive as the meal and should be tipped on in at about the same percentage. If a bill is 300 dollars and there was a $175 bottle of wine ordered, then about 5-10% on the wine is customary and acceptable. There are waiters that expect more, but to steal a line from a promenint service employee on this board, they should be kicked in the nuts if they pout about it.

As far as recieving bad service thats another huge "it depends situation." If the server was unpleast or surly, then a tip should refelect that. If the problem was that the drinks took awile around happy hour and the bar has a large crowd, then it was out of the waiter's control. You'd be best to dine elsewere if that bothers you rather than take it out on the waiter. That by no means a critcism, but rather a reality of the buisness.

[Stellastarr]

I just tip on my total bill. No matter what I eat/drink.

[Nick-Zack]

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I just tip on my total bill. No matter what I eat/drink.

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You probably don't drink wine with dinner then. I have had a $1000 bottle of wine before (our 5th anniversary), do you think I should leave a $200 tip to go along with it?

[DCIAce]

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You probably don't drink wine with dinner then. I have had a $1000 bottle of wine before (our 5th anniversary), do you think I should leave a $200 tip to go along with it?

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If the total bill was ~$1200, and you tipped somewhere between $20-40, this is extremely cheap. $100 is the minimum tip for high-quality service in this situation, in my opinion.

[GuyOnTilt]

I didn't vote in the first category, as it appears others didn't either.

GoT

[cpitt398]

I always tip on alcohol, but Ive never ordered an expensive bottle of wine though. Iv had a major percentage of the bill on drinks before ad usually tip on the total.

When I used to wait tables I wouldnt be upset if a couples bill was 120 and the bottle of wine was 60 and the left 15 bucks. That was fine with me, I understood.

[BZ_Zorro]

i never tip unless it's hooters

[PokerBob]

Tip 20% on everything. Quality of service is irrelevant.

[Nick-Zack]

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Tip 20% on everything. Quality of service is irrelevant.

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I hope that you are not being serious.

[BottlesOf]

Always include alcohol, I don't include tax. I then tip 15-25% based on service, usually 20 though.

[PokerBob]

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Tip 20% on everything. Quality of service is irrelevant.

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I hope that you are not being serious.

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I am.