Level 2 AKs preflop push--you like? You no like? $50 dolla.

[Bigwig]

Party $50

Villains appear to be donks.

***** Hand History for Game 2372279947 *****
30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 13978866) - Sat Jul 16 06:47:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 11055 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: GeneralKael1 (1655)
Seat 2: All_In_You1 (820)
Seat 3: valgos (1695)
Seat 4: SimpyLV (355)
Seat 5: glasshoppa (590)
Seat 6: paulwin1 (955)
Seat 7: HERO (1075)
Seat 8: BDR529 (380)
Seat 9: aaballa (1670)
Seat 10: boodog11 (805)
BDR529 posts small blind (15)
aaballa posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, Ah ]
boodog11 folds.
GeneralKael1 folds.
All_In_You1 folds.
valgos folds.
SimpyLV raises (355) to 355
SimpyLV is all-In.
glasshoppa raises (590) to 590
glasshoppa is all-In.
paulwin1 folds.
HERO raises (1075) to 1075
HERO is all-In.

[Ryendal]

seriously here I fold. A reraise is to many times sign of some KK AA or QQ at best at 55$.

[Moonsugar]

I think here it is ok.

If they had regular stacks I wouldn't push with 2 in cause I figure to be up against pair and missing an out or 2. But you know that already /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[DJ Sensei]

The key issue is the hand of the bigger of the 2. Since he pushed in after the first one, he should have a good hand. The shorter villain isnt of much concern, since if he wins the main pot and you take the sidepot off #2, you'll come out close to even.
So if you think its very likely that #2 would push this in with unpaired cards like AQ, AJ, KQ, etc., then its a reasonable push/call. If you want to gamble for a bigstack, go for it. You should have a strong of donkitude though, or else its probably not a great play, and more often than not you'll be down to 500ish yourself.

[Ryendal]

Yes I missed that was some short stack, but I'm still not sure it's so ok.

[Moonsugar]

For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.

[Bigwig]

Remember, I have a read. Villains reek of donkness.

[Bigwig]

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For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.

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Wow.

I'm not worried about either having AA or KK here, BTW. It didn't really cross my mind.

[Ryendal]

Next time I will try to be more concentrated ... So it seems ok. Interesting Push then /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Moonsugar]

I don't think you are either.

[Ryendal]

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For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.


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Wow.

I'm not worried about either having AA or KK here, BTW. It didn't really cross my mind.


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Really ? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Bigwig]

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For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.


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Wow.

I'm not worried about either having AA or KK here, BTW. It didn't really cross my mind.


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Really ? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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No.

Yes.

I just got up an hour ago. Let's be easy on Bigwig.

[Ryendal]

Same for me, I am stupid sometimes, and I hate to be considere as it. I am some poor human being ...

[gildwulf]

This is a very interesting push...definitely a 'playing for first' type of move. I like it.

You are definitely a coinflip here though...maybe even a little behind if they are pushing with A9+ and any pocket pair.

[tech]

I like it against short-stacked idiots.

[morgan180]

an all-in followed by another all-in - i'm probably letting this one go at the 50s.

even if they are donks what could we be looking at here?

the first short-stack allin could have anything from 66-AA, AK, AQ, AJ - is that a fair range?

the reraiser probably has something along the lines of JJ-AA, AK.

therefore i think that you're going to be the underdog to win this pot. the only hands i'd reraise all-in would be AA-QQ (and maybe not QQ)

[Bigwig]

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You are definitely a coinflip here though

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Not necessarily.

I see a lot of people here overestimating the play at the $50s.

[tech]

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the first short-stack allin could have anything from 66-AA, AK, AQ, AJ - is that a fair range?

the reraiser probably has something along the lines of JJ-AA, AK.


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WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY too tight for short-stacked donks at the 55s.

[flyingmoose]

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For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.

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You must suck.

[Ryendal]

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[Bigwig]

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For some reason this hand reminded me of the time I was all in v. 3 opps where I had AA v. KK, AK and AK. I still didn't win the hand.


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You must suck.

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At least you could try to read what I wrote after, Idiot ...

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I think moose was kidding there, sparky.

[Ryendal]

I have to officially say that I smoked and I have the prize of the big idiot today .