Dealer pronoucement ticks me off

[Vehn]

At the end of a hand I have KT on a board of K 7 2 Q 2 and bet. Mental patient #1 thinks for a while and calls, mental patient #2 overcalls. I show, and the dealer says "Kings and deuces, queen does play". Fortunetly neither oversized chimp had a king but what do you think about the dealer stating that the board kicker plays in my hand, instead of just saying "kings and deuces" or pushing up the K, the 2s, and the Q?

p.s. did I mention my opponents were bad?

[Glenn]

They should announce that stuff. Maybe not in the big game at the Bellagio, but in games where you have recreational players (15 and smaller maybe?). What is worse losing half pot once in a while or making a donator feel stupid so he goes to the craps table instead? It is shooting angle to me to try and win a pot like that. But other people think differently.

[Vehn]

It was 6/12 and I didn't say a word anyways.

[KDF]

Good to hear a dealer doing his job right. Now, if another player not in the hand says something like that --I'd smack him. (figuratively of course) /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

[Dynasty]

The dealer announced your hand just like he's supposed to. You seem to want the dealer only to announce part of your hand. The dealer should also push up the King, Deuces, and Queen.

[Ulysses]

but what do you think about the dealer stating that the board kicker plays in my hand

Sounds like a great dealer.

[John Ho]

What's the problem? You got called and showed your hand.

It's not like the dealer announced a kicker below a queen doesn't play before they called.

[SoBeDude]

Especially since your only playing one card from your hand, if anyone else holds a king, it becomes a kicker fight. I think he did a great job to see that, and call it out quickly to avoid any possible confusion with anyone else holding a king.

We've all misread a board/hand when someone flips over their cards before. I think a statement like that from the dealer just helps it sink in to our (my?) thick heads as to what the player's hand actually is.

Upon further reflection, I think he's doing you another favor too. By preventing any confusion on the hand, he gets to start the next hand more quickly, thus increasing your hands/hour rate.

Very good dealer IMO.

-Scott

[Ed Miller]

He announced your hand. I don't see what the problem is... though perhaps "Kings and deuces with a Queen" would be marginally more appropriate.

[Howard Burroughs]

Here's something from a dealer to get really ticked off about........

About a month ago I'm in a three-way pot with pocket kings. After a lot of rammin & jammin early, on the river I check into two players after the board goes runner-runner to put 4 hearts on board (I have black kings, btw).

It checks around. I table my hand.
Both players see my hand & are both in a motion to throw their cards in the muck (face down). Dang, I missed a bet.

Before the cards leave the players' hands, the dealer yells, "Wait! Check to see if you have a heart", to the two players.

Needless to say, one of the players had a baby heart. He HAD the best hand mind you, but the dealer violated the one player to a hand rule IMHO.


Best of Luck

Howard

[Ulysses]

Before the cards leave the players' hands, the dealer yells, "Wait! Check to see if you have a heart", to the two players.

I nearly vomited when I read that. That's near unbelievable. Wow.

[SoBeDude]

Beyond horrible.

I hope you called for the pit boss and had him removed.

wouldn't any reputable casino would pull that dealer in a heartbeat?

-Scott

[Howard Burroughs]

He's been there for about twenty years. They won't do anything to him, trust me.

Beleve it or not, I gave him a $20 tip once (on a big, big pot). Obviously previous to this night of course.


Howard

[Howard Burroughs]

btw, I did rack up & leave after that hand. Too bad my wife was there to witness the whole thing.

[bernie]

the dealer announcement is fine. he did his job.

cardspeak, and the dealer is the interpreter. he didnt play anyones hand for anyone....

btw...what's the difference between announcing that the board kicker plays, or 'pushing' up the cards that are playing...

a little petty one this one i think...

b

[Tyler Durden]

I'd call the floor ASAP. The dealer shouldn't be helping players like that.

[mercenary]

I don't think this is too bad. In fact it could turn out to be in your favour! If it happened in a larger game with experienced players who had made a genuine mistake then I would complain also. But in this situation I think you want to encourage new players to chase flushes usually at poor odds. Just a thought.

[Ed Miller]

Before the cards leave the players' hands, the dealer yells, "Wait! Check to see if you have a heart", to the two players.

Wow... unreal. I've never been upset in a poker room... and that might not be enough to get me upset, but I'd certainly make sure that it wasn't repeated.

[Casey]

It's cards play. Dealer announced your hand correctly. You have nothing to complain about.

[Clarkmeister]

At the Mirage, the rule goes like this:

If its a local who turns over his hand first against a tourist, the dealer says nothing and sits still like a statue.

If its a tourist who turns his hand over against a local, the dealer says Kings and Twos with a Queen.

I've seen it hundreds of times.

[SoBeDude]

20 years or not, that seems out of line for a dealer.

As I understand it, a dealer isn't allowed to say something if the BB goes to much his hand when there's been no raise. I've seen that happen where the BB, not paying attention, looks at his cards and mucks them when there were only callers in the hand.

The dealer picked up the cards and in the muck they went. I tried to say something to the guy but I was too slow. Afterwards the dealer said he felt back mucking them and was hoping a player would say something because he wasn't allowed to say anything.

Seems your situation should surely fall under the same rules?

-Scott

[MarkD]

That's kind of messed up imo.

[folded_a_monster]

I hate when the dealer does crap like this. I was playing the other day and had pocket Kings with the final board 5-J-Q-2-A. I turn my hand and dealer says "PAIR OF KINGS", then my opponent turns his cards and he has an ace. If the dealer hadn't have said anything, maybe the guy would've mucked his hand.

[Dynasty]

I hate when the dealer does crap like this. I was playing the other day and had pocket Kings with the final board 5-J-Q-2-A. I turn my hand and dealer says "PAIR OF KINGS",

That's the dealer's job. He's supposed to announce your hand.

[folded_a_monster]

I apologize that you were not able to pick up my sarcasm. I'll try to be more blatant in the future.

[Dynasty]

Sorry. Sarcasm isn't always easy to detect in writing.

[Tommy Angelo]

"Sarcasm isn't always easy to detect in writing."

How can I be sure you mean that?

:-)

[Tyler Durden]

when the dealer says "pair of kings", he is merely doing what he is paid to do. What do you expect him to say, or do you think he should say nothing? they're supposed to announce a tabled hand.

[Tyler Durden]

[CrackerZack]

I have no problem with the dealer pronouncing everything down to the suits as long as it is the dealer. In a home game I play, one guy takes it upon himself to announce everything on the board every time. "Pair of dueces on board", if the board says KT753 he'll make sure to say "possible straight" even when not in the hand. Its really annoying. He does the same thing in stud. The game's funniest moment IMHO happened when there was a stud hand going, 5 players in it (this is pretty regular here) and on 5th st one guy had a board of 642, the other 4 players each have a 3 on their board... after 5th st was dealt he pointed to 642 and said "possible straight". I spit my beer all over my chips.

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