View Full Version : 50k stat check 5/10
jfresh
07-16-2005, 01:56 AM
just thought i'd throw it out there, as i finally have a large database of hands i feel 80% satisfied about my play. recently i feel i am playing better. trying to get my winrate up to ~2, slowly getting there. i 7table, so i am not too unhappy with my winrate, and am hoping i can attribute the mediocre winrate to it as well /images/graemlins/smirk.gif . i had a 25k breakeven stretch in this set of hands which was a bummer.
anyway any comments appreciated
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TheMetetron
07-16-2005, 02:00 AM
I think you are folding your blinds a bit too much.
Victor
07-16-2005, 02:02 AM
my gawd you make 116/hr. you are bout as dumb as chad.
imported_stealthcow
07-16-2005, 02:04 AM
stats posts shouldn't include bb/100
wheelz
07-16-2005, 02:07 AM
aren't stats posts for when you aren't satisfied with your play? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
jfresh
07-16-2005, 02:11 AM
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stats posts shouldn't include bb/100
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aren't stats posts for when you aren't satisfied with your play? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
I think this is called a "brag post"
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ok i erased my bb/100 i dunno, most people have it in. its not that great (by forum standards at least). i've seen many people with stats posts in the 2.5+ BB/100 range so i dunno. and yes i am relatively happy with my play currently but its obviously not 100% optimal so just seeing if anyone has anything to add.
wheelz
07-16-2005, 02:15 AM
but you're 7-tabling... can't be upset with that winrate over 7 tables.
ctv1116
07-16-2005, 10:05 AM
that 2 cents per hand you're making gives away your winrate...
J. Sawyer
07-16-2005, 10:18 AM
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that 2 cents per hand you're making gives away your winrate...
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That would actually be 20 cents :P
your stats look good to me.
pecto
07-16-2005, 11:26 AM
1.6/100 is not bad. Your stats look a lot like mine. Just fold less on the river and calm down a bit on the flop
krishanleong
07-18-2005, 11:21 AM
Multitabling makes things so wierd. You are clearly doing very well. My stats aren't too dissimiliar to yours. I think everything is fine.
I don't know how profitable 5/10 can be for 6+ tablers. Personally, I'm not sure 3+ is achievable. Having individualized reads and paying attention to table texture does impact win rate.
Out of curiosity, how many hands per hour do you get? Over 600? Thanks,
Krishan
You 7-tabl 6-max? My god, you have the physical and mental reflexes of a god!
jfresh
07-19-2005, 05:45 AM
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Multitabling makes things so wierd. You are clearly doing very well. My stats aren't too dissimiliar to yours. I think everything is fine.
I don't know how profitable 5/10 can be for 6+ tablers. Personally, I'm not sure 3+ is achievable. Having individualized reads and paying attention to table texture does impact win rate.
Out of curiosity, how many hands per hour do you get? Over 600? Thanks,
Krishan
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i get a tad bit over 600 hands/hr with mediocre table selection. if i have to open a new table it really messes with my thinking process and things go to hell til i get another table.
also, i think the relative passiveness of 5/10 allows me to autopilot pretty well most of the time. i have gotten slaughtered at 10/20 (4tabling) because reads become a bit more important.
i really want to move up but thousand dollar swings still make me puke...
goodguy_1
07-19-2005, 10:19 AM
you say you seven table but I am curious what exactly is your MT Ratio?
I'm sure you know where to find it:Session Notes Tab/Session Detail/to the right of your True Win Rate. I doubt you are averaging 7.00 let alone 6.00 or even 5.00. If you are making 1.59bb/100 7-tabling at $5-10 and your MTRatio is anywhere above 4 I would move up and play $10-20.
If you are 7-tabling @$15.90 per 100 you are making roughly $111.30 per hour.cchiit maybe you should'nt move up to $10-20. Sounds to me like you are either exagerasting how many tables you are playing or you are running very good 7tabling. 1.59bb/100 7 tabling is very hard to acheive consistently. Many very good HUSH players have played 8 tables then almost all of them have had to cut back to fewer tables...
Your stats look alot like mine. But I only 3/4 table. I would say IF you could maintain 1.59 bb/100 7 tabling for another 50K hands you got some serious game and you should move up to $10-20 and 4 table..that is if you arent exagerating your MT ratio...what is your MTRatio?
PokerBob
07-19-2005, 11:34 AM
Your stats are almost identical to mine, but my winrate is 1/2 yours and I only 4-table. Either I run bad or you run good, but something has gotta give.
PokerBob
07-19-2005, 11:45 AM
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i really want to move up but thousand dollar swings still make me puke...
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Then how are you surviving at 5/10, or am I the lonly one that has multiple 150BB drops in a 30K hands stretch? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
obsidian
07-19-2005, 12:06 PM
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i really want to move up but thousand dollar swings still make me puke...
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Then how are you surviving at 5/10, or am I the lonly one that has multiple 150BB drops in a 30K hands stretch? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
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No
jfresh
07-19-2005, 02:13 PM
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you say you seven table but I am curious what exactly is your MT Ratio?
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i 4table party and 3 table another site because its max is 3 tables, and it doesn't save hand histories to the hard drive, so i don't bother. my MT ratio in party is 3.61. i am guessing my overall MT ratio is 6.2, 6.4?
I keep specific stats though, and last week I played 18119 hands in 29.5 hours, which is impossible 4 or 5 or probably 6 tabling.
jfresh
07-19-2005, 02:15 PM
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Then how are you surviving at 5/10, or am I the lonly one that has multiple 150BB drops in a 30K hands stretch? /images/graemlins/confused.gif
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no i do too but i meant thousand dollar swings in a hour or something. way too many -1k and -2k days while playing 10/20
krishanleong
07-19-2005, 10:12 PM
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Your stats are almost identical to mine, but my winrate is 1/2 yours and I only 4-table. Either I run bad or you run good, but something has gotta give.
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Maybe he is a better player? It's not all running bad/good.
Krishan
krishanleong
07-19-2005, 10:17 PM
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If you are making 1.59bb/100 7-tabling at $5-10 and your MTRatio is anywhere above 4 I would move up and play $10-20.
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FWIW, 10/20 is a disgustingly different game that 5/10 for serious multitablers. I would take shots but I would be willing to stay at 5/10 also.
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Sounds to me like you are either exagerasting how many tables you are playing or you are running very good 7tabling.
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I don't know if he is exagerating but I've done slightly better. I think the numbers he presents are possible.
Krishan
PokerBob
07-19-2005, 10:19 PM
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Your stats are almost identical to mine, but my winrate is 1/2 yours and I only 4-table. Either I run bad or you run good, but something has gotta give.
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Maybe he is a better player? It's not all running bad/good.
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a more likely scenario, i must admit
goodguy_1
07-20-2005, 08:28 AM
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I don't know if he is exagerating but I've done slightly better. I think the numbers he presents are possible
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you are 7-tabling with a MTRatio of 6-7 and are doing 1.59bb/100 while mostly 7 tabling..I highly doubt it.
I'm not talking about 2-3-4 tabling I'm talking about 7 or 8-tabling. The best players in this forum not necessarily the players that post the most have at times played this many tables ie 8-tabling only to cut back to fewer tables ie 4-6 after figuring out it was actually costing them money.
I'm not saying 1.5bb-2.25 bb/100 isnt possible over 50K hands for a very good player I just dont think it is doable even for the best after a large sample of 100K or 200K hands. This is kinda like you telling me you were getting 10 cents per hand in rakeback on $5-10 6MAX then it turned out to be 7 or 7 1/2 cents..remember that one? /images/graemlins/grin.gif
krishanleong
07-20-2005, 10:33 AM
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you are 7-tabling with a MTRatio of 6-7 and are doing 1.59bb/100 while mostly 7 tabling..I highly doubt it.
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It seems like you don't want to believe me. That's okay. you don't have to.
60K hands.
2.1 BB/100
546 hands/hour
MTR 5.68
Also there is a lot of 4 tabling in there where I didn't have access to my second monitor. (in airport/hotel/downstairs watching a movie)
Krishan
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