PDA

View Full Version : [censored]-ology tax policy


[censored]
07-15-2005, 04:13 PM
let's assume that the average person pays 35% of their income in the form of state and federal taxes. let's also assume that under the current structure this is comprised of 25% federal and 10% state. I don't think this is that far off from what we have now and I propose that this is completely ridiculous. the federal government many times collects money from citizens of states only send it right back to the states, costing its citizens do to unneeded admisitration and inefficiency.

instead, even if we left the overall rate where it is, we should reverse to proportions. 25% should be State and 10% should be federal. The Federal Government would be left in charge of the functions that the states are not capable of doing , like National Defense, Enforcement of Federal Law (FBI etc), setting trade policy and a few others. The main point is that the Federal Government would only have enough money to do those things that cannot be done by States.

States would assume all responsibity for programs like education and entitlements. The citizens of California want government supplied healthcare, it can increase taxes,do so and reap the rewards of consequences. Vermont wants to offer vouchers it is free to do so and deal with the consequences.

The people then would have more freedom in choosing to live in a state which was most representitive of his or her values. States would compete against each other to offer the best programs or save the most money. More ideas would come to the proverbial table, the good ones would stay and be improved upon and the bad ones would be shown for the failures they are (through comparison) and be dismissed. The lives of the people would be enriched.

Arnfinn Madsen
07-15-2005, 04:42 PM
What you describe is similar to the European Union. Some funds managed centrally, but most managed at state level with each state being free to decide tax level and the level of government services and people are free to migrate to the country they prefer.

mackthefork
07-15-2005, 05:00 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What you describe is similar to the European Union.

[/ QUOTE ]

Except the EU is /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/crazy.gif, this guys almost got me packing a case lol.

Mack

Arnfinn Madsen
07-15-2005, 05:03 PM
/images/graemlins/smile.gif
We are outside, still I have to pay solidarity tax which goes to European farmers. Is that better? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

tylerdurden
07-15-2005, 05:10 PM
[ QUOTE ]
What you describe is similar to the European Union.

[/ QUOTE ]

In theory. In practice, the EU bureacracy makes the US governement look lean and mean.

mackthefork
07-15-2005, 05:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
In theory. In practice, the EU bureacracy makes the US governement look lean and mean.

[/ QUOTE ]

I hope you weren't expecting us to argue about that.

Mack

Arnfinn Madsen
07-15-2005, 05:15 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What you describe is similar to the European Union.

[/ QUOTE ]

In theory. In practice, the EU bureacracy makes the US governement look lean and mean.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, international organizations tend to become bureaucratic
(EU, UN, NATO etc.). I wonder why it is so.

hurlyburly
07-15-2005, 05:25 PM
Thank Lincoln.

tylerdurden
07-15-2005, 07:09 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Thank Lincoln.

[/ QUOTE ]

Exactly. Lincoln is the father of big federal government. Before Lincoln the United States was a plural, after, it's singluar.