Raising less than all in (some content)

[Newt_Buggs]

$55
I have had this happen at least one other time as well.

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400/800 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 13927832) - Thu Jul 14 15:31:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 14038 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: jtireyjr (2600)
Seat 6: olliepoker (1680)
Seat 7: KOMO10 (1070)
Seat 9: NewtBuggs (4650)
jtireyjr posts small blind (200)
olliepoker posts big blind (400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ 5h, 6s ]
KOMO10 folds.
NewtBuggs raises (2000) to 2000
jtireyjr calls (1800)
olliepoker folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, Jd, 2s ]
jtireyjr checks.
NewtBuggs bets (2000)
olliepoker: i couldnt lay down any 2 cards here
jtireyjr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 6400
Board: [ 8d Jd 2s ]
jtireyjr balance 600, lost 2000 (folded)
olliepoker balance 1280, lost 400 (folded)
KOMO10 balance 1070, didn't bet (folded)
NewtBuggs balance 7050, bet 4000, collected 6400, net +2400

villain had 600 left on the flop

[Bluff Daddy]

how is this better than just pushing unless youre up against a complete moron like jtireyjr

[AA suited]

i've had that happen a few times in the 33's. 6 players left. it's heads up. bigstack villian raises on turn. i just got tpgk. it'll cost me 90% of my chips to call. i go all in for 100 more chips. he folds.

[Newt_Buggs]

1. Theres a small chance that one of my opponents is a complete moron like jtireyjr.
2. if you've been pushing every hand there's a small chance that your opponents will read the variation as strength (ie, why did he just now raise less than all in? Maybe he has something like KK)
3. I don't see how it hurts me in any way. If he tries a pathetic stop and go I'm calling.

[Bluff Daddy]

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i've had that happen a few times in the 33's. 6 players left. it's heads up. bigstack villian raises on turn. i just got tpgk. it'll cost me 90% of my chips to call. i go all in for 100 more chips. he folds.

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but that is absolutely nothing like the op's hand

[Nottom]

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how is this better than just pushing unless youre up against a complete moron like jtireyjr

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Becasue he calls you push and you lose. Here he calls your raise. Misses the flop and folds the winner, much better.

[Bluff Daddy]

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1. Theres a small chance that one of my opponents is a complete moron like jtireyjr.
2. if you've been pushing every hand there's a small chance that your opponents will read the variation as strength (ie, why did he just now raise less than all in? Maybe he has something like KK)
3. I don't see how it hurts me in any way. If he tries a pathetic stop and go I'm calling.

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I guess so, but theres also a chance that the moron would have folded if you just put him all in and instead decided to call w/ whatever the hell he would call with there and hit the flop then you lose 2600 instead of gaining 600 and I dont think the raise to 2k is going to make him think you have a monster b/c youre essentially putting him all in anyways

[Bluff Daddy]

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how is this better than just pushing unless youre up against a complete moron like jtireyjr

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Becasue he calls you push and you lose. Here he calls you raise then fold the winner, much better.

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sure he did here but how many times is someone in that position going to just call then fold the flop?

[tech]

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sure he did here but how many times is someone in that position going to just call then fold the flop?

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Never overestimate your opponents, especially at the Party 55s.