2/4 with big draw, help on turn.

[Stellastarr]

Just sat down at the table. No reads on anyone yet. I just wanted some input on the turn. I was going to raise it until MP1 raised. Is this a automatic 3bet?

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. UTG posts a blind of $2.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, UTG (poster) checks.

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero...?

[Shillx]

Gotta raise the flop. Call all bets on 4th.

[TStoneMBD]

raise preflop. raise the flop. call the turn.

[DemonDeac]

not raising flop is big mistake
id prolly just call the turn to keep some money in the pot

[TStoneMBD]

its really not a "big" mistake. hes usually passing up equity but not as much as the word "big" indicates.

[Stellastarr]

I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

[Shillx]

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I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

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Why would you want to lose people on the turn? Do you really like drawing HU as a 2:1 underdog when you could play 3 or 4 way as a 2:1 underdog? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

I would much rather lose them when I'm a 60/40 favorite or better. Better yet I want them to coldcall my flop raise.

Brad

[Stellastarr]

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I just called the flop to keep others in the pot, then waiting the turn to raise. I thought my raise would lose some callers.

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Why would you want to lose people on the turn? Do you really like drawing HU as a 2:1 underdog when you could play 3 or 4 way as a 2:1 underdog? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

I would much rather lose them when I'm a 60/40 favorite or better. Better yet I want them to coldcall my flop raise.

Brad

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I didnt think I would be losing anyone on the turn since the sb bet out.

[Shillx]

That isnt the point. If MP bet out on the turn, you should not raise there. It would be a big -EV raise.

Brad

[Stellastarr]

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That isnt the point. If MP bet out on the turn, you should not raise there. It would be a big -EV raise.

Brad

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ya, I understand that part. /images/graemlins/smile.gif