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Pokey
07-14-2005, 10:42 PM
Howdy, all. I've been busy with other stuff in my life, and I had to take a hiatus from 2+2. I'm not back yet (fully), but I hope to be in a month or so. Meanwhile, here's a hand I could use some extra input on. This was at Gila River Indian Gaming Casino in Arizona, at a 3/6 kill table (the hand was not a kill). My thoughts are in blue.

<font color="red">Hoppy</font> plays a loose aggressive game. In the past few hours, I've seen him raise a flop with A4o when the flop had a stray ace. So he's punchy.

Preflop: Pokey is MP2 with A /images/graemlins/heart.gif 9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="grey">2 folds,</font> <font color="red">Pokey raises</font>, Hoppy calls, <font color="grey">2 folds,</font> CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

<font color="blue">This might have been a bit early, but I was in raise-or-fold mode, and the hand seemed to warrant it. Also, I might have been a bit on tilt. Meh...seemed reasonable at the time. Instead of knocking out opponents, I get a crowd for a big pot.</font>

Flop: (12 SB) 2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/club.gif 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="red">Pokey bets, Hoppy raises,</font> <font color="grey">3 folds,</font> BB calls, Pokey calls.

<font color="blue">Well, I caught a piece of it, so I figured I'd keep pushing. Hoppy pushed back, and it accomplished most of the job of folding the field. I didn't see an advantage to a 3-bet here, but I wasn't going to fold.</font>

Turn: (8.5 BB) 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Pokey checks, <font color="red">Hoppy bets,</font> BB calls, <font color="red">Pokey raises, Hoppy 3-bets,</font> BB folds, Pokey calls.

<font color="blue">I catch two pair and, trusting Hoppy to keep his spurs a jinglin', I go for a check-raise. Hoppy obliges me, but then three-bets it. BB smartly folds, saving some cash -- Hoppy screwed the pooch on that one.

At this point, I'm thinking it's quite likely Hoppy flopped a set. Given the lack of a preflop reraise, I'm guessing he's got a set of 4s or 2s. I'm probably needing to catch up to win this one, and I'm drawing thin, but the pot odds are so sick that it's worth a call.</font>

River: (15 BB) 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Pokey bets, Hoppy raises, Pokey 3-bets, Hoppy 4-bets....</font>

<font color="blue">I make my boat; the only hand that could possibly beat me is the extraordinarily unlikely third AND case ace. Hoppy is pushing back hard, but I'm prepared to go all-in on this one (I'm reasonably short-stacked by now).</font>

Any thoughts?

sy_or_bust
07-14-2005, 10:54 PM
This all seems pretty straightforward. Against an idiot aggressive player you can go all in on the river (i.e. if he'll play this way with the A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif x/images/graemlins/diamond.gif or weaker FH), and I probably would.

TStoneMBD
07-14-2005, 11:12 PM
i raise this UTG in most games, so not raising it from MP2 is weak tight.

i go for a turn cap here, but then again im so used to internet play that ive forgotten what its like to play live. many times a turn 3 bet means the stone cold nuts so i have to give you credit for slowing down. reraise the river one last time.

dozer
07-14-2005, 11:27 PM
I seen this in the movie Rounders ! FOLD! villain is slowplaying pocket ace preflop! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Seriously now,I would definately keep raising against a LAG on this river until my chips are in, he could easily have a lower fullhouse or even just a flush. Especially since you don't have much chips left anyways.