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SA125
07-14-2005, 07:54 PM
Live 10-20
Villain is the BB and is a very solid thinking player who plays regularly.
4 limpers to me and I limp on the button with JTo. 6 to the flop unraised pot.
Flop K J T with 2 diamonds. I don't have a diamond.
Checked to me, I bet, SB folds, BB c/r's, folded back to me I call.
Turn is a rag diamond. He bets, I raise, he calls.
River is a blank. He checks.
With a board of K J T xx, flush draw out also, I raised the turn, does he call with just a K or worse if I bet here?
brettbrettr
07-14-2005, 08:02 PM
bet. You're likely good and he can't call otherwise.
SA125
07-14-2005, 09:40 PM
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bet. You're likely good and he can't call otherwise.
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You hate to show for free, but why bet if he'll only call with a better hand?
sy_or_bust
07-14-2005, 10:26 PM
You really can't value bet a solid player here. I can't think of a single calling hand you beat that plays the preflop as above. If he is a good player, he'll fold his pairs w/ missed redraws and check/call his better 2-pair hands.
Chris Daddy Cool
07-14-2005, 10:31 PM
i would bet. your hand is most likely best and you will probably end up winning without a showdown, but you're overestimating how often players (even good ones) will fold this river.
TStoneMBD
07-14-2005, 10:36 PM
easy river bet.
not sure about the preflop limp. its very debateable but you didnt specify table factors so i dont have much to comment here.
SA125
07-15-2005, 03:50 AM
I check behind, he shows me a small K and says he was mucking anyway. He knew my line wasn't on the come. I had a small K beat. He would have check/called down if he caught 2 pair.
I do agree there's some "good" players who will pay off TP no matter the board, the line or their kicker. I just didn't see this one doing it. Maybe I'm wrong. That TOP question of "what will call you" is a good one.
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does he call with just a K or worse if I bet here?
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Yes, if he thinks you're bluffing 2 diamond.
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