3bet river?

[jfresh]

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, HERO...?

opponent was pretty aggressive, i was expected to get played back on the flop with almost anything he raised with. The river threw me for a loop, had put him on a high pp or AQ, but now what?

[JrJordan]

I'd muck that preflop vs. an MP raise...

A river 3-bet would be chip spewing big time. MP could be raising preflop with 88, 77, and even 44 because he's aggro. Just call.

[Jeffage]

As played, only call the end. You've showed a lot of strength and this guy is still coming at you. For what it's worth, you have a gimme flop checkraise.

Jeff

[Jgents]

Q4s is a very weak hand HU against a MP raise. I'd mucked that preflop.

You're WA/WB. QQ, 66, 77, 88 have you crushed. You are owning the rest of his range. He could be overplaying AQ, AA-KK, JJ-99. After the the turn 3-bet, I like cc. I"m not folding.

[jfresh]

i'm not quite sure how i ended up in the hand either, as i usually muck Q4s too. too many tables i guess.

villain showed KK, i guess he didn't believe me.

[Jgents]

He probably was trying to limp-reraise, and to compensate for failing to do so, went aggro postal post-flop.

Here is a similar hand I was just involved in. Again, Villain failed to raise preflop. I put him on KK-AA, AQ, KQ.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qc 7c (two pair, queens and sevens).
UTG has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB. </font>

[joker122]

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For what it's worth, you have a gimme flop checkraise.

Jeff

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opponent is aggressive. this is a gimme lead/3bet IMO.

[Buck_65]

I can't imagine 3-betting the river, just call. I think the preflop call is a little loose, but you do need to defend a lot since you're getting a good price and you can assume villain's open-raising standards are fairly broad. There are worse hands I've defended with, so I can't say I hate it.

[Jeffage]

An aggro player might raise you with a wide variety of hands on the turn after you checkraise the flop, thus allowing you to collect 3 bets on the turn as well. Just some thoughts...no real "right" answer on this.

Jeff