how does having DSL and cable at the same time work?

[pearljam]

Im an SNG player, and every time my cable goes out for a few minutes I lose all my SNG's. Apparently my cable is fine and according to the cable company "these things just happen". I am wondering if there is a way I could order DSL and have it plugged into my computer along with the cable so if one goes out I wouldnt even notice. I am very ignorant about computers and any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks in advance

[Chief911]

You'll need to get a load balancing router.

DSL + Cable ----> Router ----->Computer

[tinhat]

If your cable is failing you enough to wonder about a backup, why subsidize spotty service by paying for DSL too? DUMP THE CABLE if it's that bad...

Mike

[pearljam]

its not that bad, goes out maybe twice a week and only for a few minutes. also its the only kind of cable available here. How do I go about getting this router job? like is there a number I can call where someone will come to my house and set this up for me?

[skoal2k4]

This is what you want (http://www.cablemodeminfo.com/NexlandPro800TurboReview.html-ssi)

[Wes ManTooth]

Is this only one of its kind? $400 is alot but this seems worth it.

[skoal2k4]

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Is this only one of its kind? $400 is alot but this seems worth it.

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no, there's others... just google "load balance router cable dsl" or something like that

[thatguy11]

when it comes to those load balance routers you can pick them up lighter that $400 if you shop around and a 5-port would be alot less expensive than a larger one, depends how many computers you are putting on your home network.

[MyMindIsGoing]

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I am wondering if there is a way I could order DSL and have it plugged into my computer along with the cable so if one goes out I wouldnt even notice.

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If you are in a SNG and one of them disconnects, you will notice it no matter what. If I were in your situation and my normal connection just dissconects I would connect with a modem and restart the poker client, and it should let you play on, and you just missed a few hands (atleast prima let you do this).

And by the way, why would you keep your cable if you had DSL?

[Sniper]

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And by the way, why would you keep your cable if you had DSL?

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1. Cable is faster than DSL.
2. Redundancy

The suggested router is a good "business" investment if your looking for 0 downtime.

[MyMindIsGoing]

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And by the way, why would you keep your cable if you had DSL?

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1. Cable is faster than DSL.
2. Redundancy

The suggested router is a good "business" investment if your looking for 0 downtime.

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Mkay if say so (cable here in Sweden refers to cable modem witch are usually 512k/128k and DLS often refers to ADSL (the most common DSL) witch is 8mbit/1mbit here), but still it won't give 0 downtime. The SNG WILL be interupted no matter what.

[Freakin]

DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection. Cable (comcast at least) is now offering 6-8megabit downstream (though the upstream will probably still suck balls). Cable is faster here, unless you pay out the ass for your DSL.

Freakin

[tinhat]

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DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection.

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Maybe if you live in FrozenAss Alaska - do you work for the cable company or something?

Mike

[MyMindIsGoing]

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DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection.

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Maybe if you live in FrozenAss Alaska - do you work for the cable company or something?

Mike

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Sometimes I feel "blessed" about having had 10mbit LAN connection since 2001, when I move I make sure there is a good 10mbit there first. Had 512/128kbit cable modem for a few years before that. I go crazy if I don't have a good internet connection.

[Freakin]

768-1.5 is a standard speed for $40-50 home service in seattle area for DSL.

Freakin

[tinhat]

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DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection.

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768-1.5 is a standard speed for $40-50 home service in seattle area for DSL.


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So now we're up to 1.5M? Maybe 3M+ next? And best as I recall Seattle's town limits do not reach across the U.S. meaning you don't speak for "your average home connection" any more than I do.

I'm not trying to be shitty about it but it really chaps my frijolies when cable company propaganda gets tossed around in the public square as fact. Next thing you know somebody's going to say get rid of satellite TV because of "rain fade" and "that hideous dish stuck on my house".

I'm no phone company stooge but IMO DSL is unquestionably a better value than cable - everyone already has a phone line; I don't need to buy mimimum cable service or rent boxes to have DSL. I pay $29 for 1.5M DSL AND ISP. And it's very likely that price is coming down.

DSL is fast enough for 99% of what people do at a lower cost (with the exception apparently of Seattle). It's unquestionably more reliable. It's unquestionably not prone to peak-hour congestion.

Cable is fine if that's all you got; cable is fine if that's your preference. But don't try to tell ppl cable is a cheap rocket ship and DSL is a rusty overpriced VW. Not only is it a gross distortion but I'm guessing you may not have the experience to make that characterization for anywhere except Seattle, WA.

Mike

[skoal2k4]

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DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection.

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768-1.5 is a standard speed for $40-50 home service in seattle area for DSL.


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So now we're up to 1.5M? Maybe 3M+ next? And best as I recall Seattle's town limits do not reach across the U.S. meaning you don't speak for "your average home connection" any more than I do.

I'm not trying to be shitty about it but it really chaps my frijolies when cable company propaganda gets tossed around in the public square as fact. Next thing you know somebody's going to say get rid of satellite TV because of "rain fade" and "that hideous dish stuck on my house".

I'm no phone company stooge but IMO DSL is unquestionably a better value than cable - everyone already has a phone line; I don't need to buy mimimum cable service or rent boxes to have DSL. I pay $29 for 1.5M DSL AND ISP. And it's very likely that price is coming down.

DSL is fast enough for 99% of what people do at a lower cost (with the exception apparently of Seattle). It's unquestionably more reliable. It's unquestionably not prone to peak-hour congestion.

Cable is fine if that's all you got; cable is fine if that's your preference. But don't try to tell ppl cable is a cheap rocket ship and DSL is a rusty overpriced VW. Not only is it a gross distortion but I'm guessing you may not have the experience to make that characterization for anywhere except Seattle, WA.

Mike

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in Aurora CO, dsl is $44.99/mo for upto 5mbps and cable is $48.99 for 6mbps

so, the better value here is cable (although not by much)

pretty comparable, but here's what really matters to me... dsl isn't available in my area and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere.

[tinhat]

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in Aurora CO, dsl is $44.99/mo for upto 5mbps and cable is $48.99 for 6mbps

so, the better value here is cable (although not by much)

pretty comparable, but here's what really matters to me... dsl isn't available in my area and I don't exactly live in the middle of nowhere.

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All legitimate (But cable isn't available everywhere either.)

I won't quibble by saying you'd never be able to tell the difference in those two speeds anyway (and I bet perfectly satisfactory 1.5M service is substantially less than either). I used to ride and every year the new bike went 0.05s faster in the 1/4 mile than the old model - but everybody wanted the new one because it was "so fast" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I replied because I took exception to the statement that 'the average home connection is 768k'. It just isn't true....

Mike

[Freakin]

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DSL in the US is usually no more than 768k downstream for your average home connection.

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768-1.5 is a standard speed for $40-50 home service in seattle area for DSL.


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So now we're up to 1.5M? Maybe 3M+ next? And best as I recall Seattle's town limits do not reach across the U.S. meaning you don't speak for "your average home connection" any more than I do.

I'm not trying to be shitty about it but it really chaps my frijolies when cable company propaganda gets tossed around in the public square as fact. Next thing you know somebody's going to say get rid of satellite TV because of "rain fade" and "that hideous dish stuck on my house".

I'm no phone company stooge but IMO DSL is unquestionably a better value than cable - everyone already has a phone line; I don't need to buy mimimum cable service or rent boxes to have DSL. I pay $29 for 1.5M DSL AND ISP. And it's very likely that price is coming down.

DSL is fast enough for 99% of what people do at a lower cost (with the exception apparently of Seattle). It's unquestionably more reliable. It's unquestionably not prone to peak-hour congestion.

Cable is fine if that's all you got; cable is fine if that's your preference. But don't try to tell ppl cable is a cheap rocket ship and DSL is a rusty overpriced VW. Not only is it a gross distortion but I'm guessing you may not have the experience to make that characterization for anywhere except Seattle, WA.

Mike

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I was speaking from my own experience, which is limited to teh seattle area. Comcast offers 6-8MB service for $45/mo (upload is probably only 384-512). Qwest offers 1.5/896 for $40/mo, and 256/256 for $27/mo. Speakeasy is 768/128 for $40, 1.5/384 for $50. Sucks for seattle, I guess, but I don't mind $45/mo for cable cause I don't have to spend an extra 10-20/mo on a phone line. I don't have to pay to rent my cable modem. I haven't noticed any peak-hour congestion since it first started becoming popular around mid-2000. I have never noticed any down time. Cable is a much better choice here, just like DSL is a much better choice in Sweden. And no, I don't work for a cable company.

Freakin

[Sniper]

Re; Redundancy

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but still it won't give 0 downtime

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If you were 8 tabling high stakes NL and your internet connection ever went out, you would be wondering why you didn't make this investment sooner /images/graemlins/wink.gif

With load balancing and automatic fail over, you wouldn't even notice that one connection went down.

[Nomad84]

In my neck of the woods, cable is the better alternative if you use cable television. At my first apartment, we had cable internet at 3/.5 Mbps (I think that was the upload speed). It was about $40, I believe, since we also used cable TV. At my last apartment, it was not possible to get cable since the complex had a deal with SBC for DirectTV, which was provided with our rent. We got DSL there. It was 1.5/?? and cost over $60/mo. That included the phone service, be we never even plugged a phone in. We all used our cell phones. However, at my parents' house, we are not wired for cable since it would have cost several hundred to run cable out here. We live quite a ways off of the road. We use DishNetwork for TV. A couple of years ago, SBC started offering DSL here, so that is what we use. IIRC, it is 1.5 downstream. I don't know how much it costs, but I would guess $30-40. In the future, even if I use Dish for TV, I will probably still try to use cable internet. It only costs about $10 more/month if not getting a package deal, which still makes it a better deal than DSL to me. In addition, about a year ago, Cox cable speeds increased to 4 Mbps for the same price. I think that the cable vs. DSL question depends a lot on where you live.

[smoore]

Poker players don't care about throughput, they care about latency. DSL typically crushes cable connections in this department. DSL connections are actually subnetted, cable is a flat network. That means that with DSL, I don't care if little Johnny down the street is downloading goat porn but with cable it'll lag me.

Latency is everything if you don't care about 0-day goat porn.

As far as the OP: yeah, just get a dial-up backup unless you're multitabling the 100 SnG's... in that case just call a local geek to come hook you up, tell him it's "mission critical". 100's players have the money for this kind of crap. Any 100's players in/around denver need this service? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[MyMindIsGoing]

"With load balancing and automatic fail over, you wouldn't even notice that one connection went down."

This is not true.

[memphis57]

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Latency is everything if you don't care about 0-day goat porn.


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Yeah, but how about downloading goat porn WHILE playing poker? Some of us are multi-taskers, you know.

On the topic here, does anybody have this hooked up where we know it will work with party poker and the others? I'm no expert but I know the PP software monitors the internet connection and I also know it ain't bugfree code. How do we know that just switching from main to backup internet service wont set it off in a tizzy?

[Freakin]

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Latency is everything if you don't care about 0-day goat porn.


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Yeah, but how about downloading goat porn WHILE playing poker? Some of us are multi-taskers, you know.

On the topic here, does anybody have this hooked up where we know it will work with party poker and the others? I'm no expert but I know the PP software monitors the internet connection and I also know it ain't bugfree code. How do we know that just switching from main to backup internet service wont set it off in a tizzy?

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I've unplugged my router during a hand. Plugged it back in at was still my action. This should be even more transparent.

Freakin

[smoore]

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Latency is everything if you don't care about 0-day goat porn.


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Yeah, but how about downloading goat porn WHILE playing poker? Some of us are multi-taskers, you know.

On the topic here, does anybody have this hooked up where we know it will work with party poker and the others? I'm no expert but I know the PP software monitors the internet connection and I also know it ain't bugfree code. How do we know that just switching from main to backup internet service wont set it off in a tizzy?

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I've unplugged my router during a hand. Plugged it back in at was still my action. This should be even more transparent.

Freakin

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Not neccesarily. If your IP address switches suddenly, the poker site may interpret it as you being hijacked and stop the session... If they want to be really safe about it they may even lock your account. I'm just speculating though, I have no experience with this issue.

[MrBrightside]

well, I had the same problem, so I switched to DSL. have been VERY happy with it. It's rock solid. Also, as a bonus, my dsl is yahoo dsl. They include a dial up account which, as a bonus, has nationwide access numbers in the U.S. The nice thing about this is, I went ahead and configured the dial-up account on an old modem I had. I figure If I lose DSL, I could always dial up. I've never had to use it though. The only time I've lost DSL is when my dog chewed up the phone cable outside my house /images/graemlins/smile.gif