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Nottom
07-14-2005, 01:32 AM
Level 1, everyone in the hand is about where we started.

Trny:13918065 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nottom [ As Qd ]
4 folds.
nottom raises [60].
mmthedude folds.
Mamasha_68 folds.
TedRules22 folds.
bama1986 calls [50].
CharlesDeMar calls [45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, Th, Ah ]
bama1986 checks.
CharlesDeMar checks.
nottom bets [125].
bama1986 calls [125].
CharlesDeMar calls [125].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7d ]
bama1986 checks.
CharlesDeMar checks.
nottom bets [300].
bama1986 calls [300].
CharlesDeMar folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
bama1986 is all-In [555]
nottom is all-In [490]

I know this might look like a bad beat post, but the reason I ask is becasue I actually said outloud to myself on the turn I guess I'm going broke this hand as I made my bet.

Nottom
07-14-2005, 01:33 AM
He obviously flopped a boat.

curtains
07-14-2005, 01:43 AM
I definitely go broke here.

The Yugoslavian
07-14-2005, 01:47 AM
Do it.

Yugoslav

07-14-2005, 01:48 AM
i might fold pre-flop this early in the tournament or at least not raise so the pot stays smaller

johnnybeef
07-14-2005, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I go broke. That being said, if i were in a multi with deep stacks involved I give serious consideration to laying it down with a decent read.

Jimbobobb
07-14-2005, 01:52 AM
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i might fold pre-flop this early in the tournament or at least not raise so the pot stays smaller


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I assume that's a joke.

You're definitely either losing it all or getting as much as you can.

ilya
07-14-2005, 01:59 AM
I don't understand why you need to go broke here. How can you figure to be ahead after he pushes the river? If he had a hand like AQ or AJ, he'd just check/call.

This hand really reminds me of a quiz hand in Ciaffone and Reuben's NL/PL book. You guys know what I'm talking about?

Great book btw.

tech
07-14-2005, 02:00 AM
Obviously the correct answer is to river a Q. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I played almost this exact hand the other night. I had AK on KKJ flop. Got all-in against KJ and luckboxed the A on the river.

Like everyone else said, I go broke here.

07-14-2005, 02:11 AM
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i might fold pre-flop this early in the tournament or at least not raise so the pot stays smaller


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I assume that's a joke.

You're definitely either losing it all or getting as much as you can.

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I guess i probably would go broke in this situation, but i don't really like A-Q much this early (but would probably still call with it preflop)

johnnybeef
07-14-2005, 02:14 AM
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Obviously the correct answer is to river a Q. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I played almost this exact hand the other night. I had AK on KKJ flop. Got all-in against KJ and luckboxed the A on the river.

Like everyone else said, I go broke here.

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close, but no banana....the correct answer is to river an ace....thanks lorinda! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

fnord_too
07-14-2005, 07:58 AM
So last night I am in the BB in the rebuy section of an MTT. I have 46 and get a free pass. Flop is 4K6, like 4 of us but it is soon to be HU. I bet he mini raises (two tone flop, btw). Some card comes I bet (since he may be drawing) he mini raises again. Sonofabitch! I call. River come some card, I check and he makes some none all in bet (I started the hand with a nice stack, so I am not needing to double up before the rebuy is over). I type "Man I spewed some chips this hand" as I called. MHIG. (He had KQ or such).

Of course you go broke. Did he have AT or TT?

lacky
07-14-2005, 08:03 AM
just make sure you go broke with it in the HU, I dont want my horse thinking TOO much.

Steve

durron597
07-14-2005, 08:57 AM
It is possible to get away from this with a read. Against an unknown, on party poker especially, you lose your stack.

adanthar
07-14-2005, 11:06 AM
Basic answer: In a low level tournament, no, you lose your stack.

In a $100-200 with good reads: You bet and got two calls. Be generous and give one a flush draw or a T; the other surely has an ace. The question is what kind of ace (a tight regular, for example, does not have AJ) and you should be checking behind on this turn a fair amount.

On the river, yeah, you're going broke.

11t
07-14-2005, 11:11 AM
Yah going broke here is pretty standard. I posted a hand like several weeks ago when I put somebody on 77 and check-called the river for half my stack but that was only cus I had 1500 to start. On party I think you must go broke here.

Too often ppl will have weaker A's imo.

chisness
07-14-2005, 11:24 AM
try playing AK instead of AQ then you win

raptor517
07-14-2005, 03:26 PM
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Basic answer: In a low level tournament, no, you lose your stack.

In a $100-200 with good reads: You bet and got two calls. Be generous and give one a flush draw or a T; the other surely has an ace. The question is what kind of ace (a tight regular, for example, does not have AJ) and you should be checking behind on this turn a fair amount.

On the river, yeah, you're going broke.

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fiddle sticks u wrote what i was gonna. np. holla

aeakos
07-14-2005, 11:46 PM
I push the turn.

morgan180
07-15-2005, 12:13 AM
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He obviously flopped a boat.

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i didn't read any replies but this is my guess - why not check the turn?

Nottom
07-15-2005, 12:45 AM
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He obviously flopped a boat.

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i didn't read any replies but this is my guess - why not check the turn?

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Stupid flush draws making me bet.

adanthar
07-15-2005, 01:27 AM
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Stupid flush draws making me bet.

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Keep in mind that on a paired board, a flush draw only has seven (sometimes eight) outs on the river, plus one that stacks him vs. your boat.

lastchance
07-15-2005, 01:34 AM
What'd he have? Tens full?

Nottom
07-15-2005, 01:49 AM
Yeah

Huckle
07-15-2005, 01:54 AM
The check-calls on both the flop and turn and then going all-in on the river gives me very bad AK-feelings or maybe pocket kings/tens.

I might be able to get out of this if I had any kind of read on him, but otherwise I'd just call the all-in, knowing beforehand I'd already lost it.

The one play that could save enough chips would be to check the turn, just wanting to see the showdown, and then folding when he goes all-in on the river, but that's probably weak-tight given the very few hands that would beat you.
The only hand that could play this way that you've got beaten is a busted flush draw, but I don't think a lot of people would play that on a board with paired aces.

Jay36489
07-15-2005, 01:57 AM
I go broke here and when this kind of [censored] happens I don't even get upset anymore...

Unoriginalname
07-15-2005, 04:32 AM
I think the buy-in of the tournament is very important here. I play the 22s so this is an easy go broke for me. Like others have said though, could be a possible lay down at higher buy-ins though.

The Stick
07-15-2005, 05:01 PM
I go broke here. Similar happened to me on the first hand of a 33 yesterday. Get dealt 44 in the SB. EP raises from 10 to 40. I call, BB calls. Flop is A 5 4, two clubs. I bet about 90 (pot of 120), hoping for a big ace to come back over the top. BB calls, EP calls--I figure him for the AJ or such, and BB could have a wider range. Turn is a 2. "Great. BB probably has A3o & just hit his wheel." I say to myself. I bet out anyway, 200. BB calls, EP folds (later says he did indeed have AJ). River's another 2. "Whew, outdrew his wheel." I bet 300, just less than half his remaining stack, hoping for a call. BB reraises all in. I call, expecting to coast a nice stack thru much the rest of the tourney. Instead, he flips over pocket 22s and I go broke, unable to do anything about it.