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Newt_Buggs
07-14-2005, 01:23 AM
sorry, the converter is broken

***** Hand History for Game 2360165519 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 13913100) - Wed Jul 13 23:30:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 19563 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Da4495 (640)
Seat 3: NewtBuggs (1205)
Seat 5: kellopi (2220)
Seat 6: brooklyn30 (2215)
Seat 8: fore36 (2760)
Seat 10: JiveTrkyMofo (960)
brooklyn30 posts small blind (150)
fore36 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ 7c, 3h ]
JiveTrkyMofo folds.
Da4495 folds.
NewtBuggs raises (1205) to 1205
NewtBuggs is all-In.

PP $55, tight table, blinds up in 3 hands.

curtains
07-14-2005, 01:23 AM
Not suicidal at all.

Matt R.
07-14-2005, 01:58 AM
looks perfectly fine to me too. I think folding would be a pretty big mistake with these blinds actually.

freemoney
07-14-2005, 02:00 AM
i think this is pretty standard.

Newt_Buggs
07-14-2005, 02:19 AM
what if you had no reads on the table other than that there was no obvious manical donk?

I'm surprised that this is so standard (its definitly -EV by ICM). I posted some desperation pushes a while back and most of them were considered bad. I'll definitly have to find some more of these and post them up.

ilya
07-14-2005, 02:24 AM
I can dig it. This is your last chance to push before the blinds hit you again into guys who aren't desperate to call.

freemoney
07-14-2005, 02:52 AM
i never, ever use the icm i have never looked at it, i read peoples posts using it and i can appreciate its limited use and it has improved my understanding, in terms of this situation you still have good FE and the blinds are pretty significant.

fluorescenthippo
07-14-2005, 03:12 AM
folding would be suicide

fluorescenthippo
07-14-2005, 03:14 AM
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I'm surprised that this is so standard (its definitly -EV by ICM).

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pretty sure youre wrong here. pushing 32o from Co with 4xBB is usually +EV unless its the bubble

lastchance
07-14-2005, 03:24 AM
But folding would be even worse, as you give up FE plus blinds hitting you.

Plus, you can get your opponents to lay down K5 here. And that would rock.

johnnybeef
07-14-2005, 03:43 AM
folding calling and pushing are all -EV....pushing is the least of which.

tigerite
07-14-2005, 06:04 AM
I push here. Yeah sometimes you run into AA, or whatever. Happens.

curtains
07-14-2005, 06:44 AM
Hard for me to answer in a vacuum. I have definitely folded in this spot before with a stronger hand than 73o. I've of course pushed with hands like 73o as well.

AA suited
07-14-2005, 06:13 PM
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I can dig it. This is your last chance to push before the blinds hit you again into guys who aren't desperate to call.

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