Standard raise on Level 3 of 1000 chip tourneys?

[Bigwig]

Mine is 150. But I see a lot of others raising 175 or 200. Is 150 enough? If not, make your case. What do you raise?

[curtains]

Mine is 125

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]

Mine is 125

[/ QUOTE ]

Ew. I dont' like that at all. Why?

[Bluff Daddy]

125, 150, 175

[curtains]

Because they fold just plenty, I lose 25 less chips when someone comes over the top or when other bad things happen and the pot is more manageable postflop and makes it easier for me to play and etc etc. Again it's almost always correct to make your standard raise size that of whatever the lowest amount is that gets the job done. I feel that 125 is very close to 150 in that regard.

Anyway what can I say, it works for me just fine. My normal raise in the 10-15 round is 45, its 85 in the 15-30 round, its 275 in the 50-100 round and 375 in the 75-150 round.

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]

Mine is 125

[/ QUOTE ]

Ugh...I hate to agree with him but.....I generally raise 125. Sometimes 150 if I'm feeling frisky.

Yugoslav

[ilya]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Mine is 125

[/ QUOTE ]

Ew. I dont' like that at all. Why?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm guessing because he feels it doesn't make much difference to players outside the blinds, and he can use position to outplay the vast majority of big-blind callers?
Especially since keeping the pot small preflop leaves more room for maneuvering on the flop.

?

[curtains]

btw I raise it to 150 and 175 sometimes of course, although 175 is rare. But standard is 125.

[Bigwig]

I just feel that far too many players treat this like a min-raise. Especially when it's still such a small portion of their stack (in their eyes). I can't disagree with a 2.5BB raise on level 4 and up. But I don't like it here.

[curtains]

Ok, but I steal the blinds a very decent % of the time, trust me on that.

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]

Ok, but I steal the blinds a very decent % of the time, trust me on that.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're concerned a lot with blind stealing on Level 3?

[microbet]

I don't think it the differences being argued about are THAT significant.

My standards
I - 50
II - 80-100
III - 150
IV - 250

I'll go a little up or down, but those are the most common.

[curtains]

Well if people fold to my raises just as often as yours, then I'm happy with my raise amount.

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]

Well if people fold to my raises just as often as yours, then I'm happy with my raise amount.

[/ QUOTE ]

Of course.

I doubt that they do, however. I think there's a bit of psychology at work here.

[curtains]

Well they surely call slightly more often, but I don't mind... it works pretty well for me, I do quite well in round 3 according to my trusty PT.

[Newt_Buggs]

I don't think that this is very important either, but I'm surprised that everyone has such a small lvl 1 raise. I almost never raise less than 60.

[Nottom]

140

[microbet]

Ok, you guys might not want to give up this secret, but do any of you raise wierd amounts (like 142) and if so, what are you thinking?

[yabastid]

[ QUOTE ]
Ok, you guys might not want to give up this secret, but do any of you raise wierd amounts (like 142) and if so, what are you thinking?

[/ QUOTE ]

142 is GAY!

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]

Because they fold just plenty, I lose 25 less chips when someone comes over the top or when other bad things happen and the pot is more manageable postflop and makes it easier for me to play and etc etc. Again it's almost always correct to make your standard raise size that of whatever the lowest amount is that gets the job done. I feel that 125 is very close to 150 in that regard.

Anyway what can I say, it works for me just fine. My normal raise in the 10-15 round is 45, its 85 in the 15-30 round, its 275 in the 50-100 round and 375 in the 75-150 round.

[/ QUOTE ]

I got ridiculed for this too, yet I always raise to 125. Glad I'm not alone.

Ok I'd better edit this, as it's not "always", but "most of the time", obviously with limpers it's different, etc.

[curtains]

I just like opening for small amounts, I think I play smaller pots better a bit better than large ones if that makes any sense, especially when the flop isn't great for me.

[tigerite]

Yeah, I agree, there's no need to get into a huge pot when an overcard might drop, nothing wrong with seeing a flop especially with a pair or AK, they are pretty easy to play for the most part.

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]

I just like opening for small amounts, I think I play smaller pots better a bit better than large ones if that makes any sense, especially when the flop isn't great for me.

[/ QUOTE ]

By that logic, would it make sense for me to continue to raise 150, because I tend to play larger pots better?

[curtains]

Dude of course raising to 150 is fine, raising to 125 is fine its just a matter of style. I don't even dare to claim that one is better than the other. If I raised to 150 every time instead of 125 I doubt it would affect my results much.

[Unarmed]

[ QUOTE ]

I just like opening for small amounts, I think I play smaller pots better a bit better than large ones if that makes any sense, especially when the flop isn't great for me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ditto.
125 for me, more if limpers.

I WANT action with all my raising hands, AK included.
... the life of an anti c-bettor...

[wiggs73]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't think that this is very important either, but I'm surprised that everyone has such a small lvl 1 raise. I almost never raise less than 60.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think this changes across different levels of buy-ins. In the 11s and 22s, I never open in level one for less than 65 and usually I open for 75. You'll still get a caller or 2 at these levels most of the time, so it serves it's purpose.

In the few 55s I've played, I've seen people open for 45 or 50 in level one. I think the players there give those raises the same respect that it takes a t75 raise to get in the 11s. I'd imagine the same holds true in the 109s and 215s.

[AA suited]

[ QUOTE ]
I just feel that far too many players treat this like a min-raise. Especially when it's still such a small portion of their stack (in their eyes). I can't disagree with a 2.5BB raise on level 4 and up. But I don't like it here.

[/ QUOTE ]

yup, i treat it as a min raise.

if i'm a blind, i call a 125 bet if i have a suited connector, suited 1 off, or any 2 face cards. i fold all but premium hands to 150.

(hey, you gota have a cutoff point.)