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zram21
07-14-2005, 12:54 AM
In this hand MP1 is 41.67/16.67/2.33 after only 12 hands and the button is 54.55/9.09/1.50 after 11 hands. Not the most solid of reads.

Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: Hero has Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif in the CO
1 fold, MP1 limps, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 sb) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
MP1 bets, Hero folds....

Easy fold here even though I am getting 9:1? How is the rest of my play?

brassnuts
07-14-2005, 12:58 AM
You're not really getting 9:1... I'd think of it as 5:1 to call down. With a 40+ VSIP and a 2.33 AF, I think I would call this down.

obsidian
07-14-2005, 01:04 AM
I call this down. I see people do this with flush draws a lot.

zram21
07-14-2005, 01:13 AM
Doesn't the player left to act behind me change this at all? I am not arguing as much as just trying to understand. It's not unlikely that button might CC with a weak K on the flop and MP1 is representing a K. If either one of them have one I am drawing dead.

If I call and the button raises do I fold if it was one mor ebet back to me closing the action?

zram21
07-14-2005, 11:06 AM
Any other thoughts on this one?

sy_or_bust
07-14-2005, 11:24 AM
You only need to be good 20% of the time to call down. Against this player you should easily cross this threshold. You may even be good most of the time.

Poldi
07-14-2005, 01:12 PM
The 2nd K also made it less likely that one of them has one. If the player behind you raises, fold.

sethypooh21
07-14-2005, 01:35 PM
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The 2nd K also made it less likely that one of them has one. If the player behind you raises, fold.

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What he said. Since when does Party have 3/6 SH, or is this just a full table gone short?

Transference
07-14-2005, 01:39 PM
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What he said. Since when does Party have 3/6 SH, or is this just a full table gone short?



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Old news sethy, have you been in hiding lately? Party has had 3/6 6max for at least 2 weeks now I think, time for you to finally abandon thoes stars games in favor of rakeback?

sethypooh21
07-14-2005, 01:41 PM
How are they? Bar exam in two weeks, so I can't go after them just yet...licking my chops in anticipation....

obsidian
07-14-2005, 01:41 PM
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You only need to be good 20% of the time to call down. Against this player you should easily cross this threshold. You may even be good most of the time.

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True. Besides, if he did have a king he would probably c/r you well over 50% of the time.

zram21
07-14-2005, 04:46 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.

MP1 shows (A /images/graemlins/heart.gif, T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif)
Button shows (A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif)

Ny hand would have been good. Thanks again.

Guy McSucker
07-14-2005, 05:03 PM
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How are they?


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Spectacularly soft.

Guy.