$109 - Stenchy little SB hand...

[octaveshift]

Is my line OK here? If I am a donk, please tell me.

***** Hand History for Game 2359231728 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:13909770 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, July 13, 21:05:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 35016 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 9: xyrophobe ( $985 )
Seat 5: gsdog ( $1000 )
Seat 4: thedavalry ( $1000 )
Seat 8: buymesteak ( $985 )
Seat 3: mb110390 ( $1000 )
Seat 10: reddevil3 ( $985 )
Seat 2: eastbayplaya ( $985 )
Seat 1: DoYouSeaWhy ( $1000 )
Seat 6: wojo130 ( $1000 )
Seat 7: LesGabmleNow ( $1060 )
Trny:13909770 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobe [ 2d 9d ]
DoYouSeaWhy folds.
eastbayplaya folds.
mb110390 folds.
thedavalry folds.
gsdog folds.
wojo130 calls [15].
LesGabmleNow folds.
buymesteak folds.
xyrophobe calls [5].
reddevil3 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 3d, Jh ]
xyrophobe checks.
reddevil3 bets [15].
wojo130 calls [15].
xyrophobe calls [15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
xyrophobe checks.
reddevil3 bets [55].
wojo130 calls [55].
xyrophobe calls [55].
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
xyrophobe checks.
reddevil3 checks.
wojo130 checks.
xyrophobe shows [ 2d, 9d ] a pair of twos.
reddevil3 doesn't show [ Kd, 6d ] high card king.
wojo130 shows [ 8c, Qc ] a pair of eights.
wojo130 wins 255 chips from the main pot with a pair of eights.

[octaveshift]

There are currently THREE other 2+2ers in this game right now.

How do I know? They are talking about the forum.

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[Bigwig]

I think it's fine. No donkness.

[samr]

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There are currently THREE other 2+2ers in this game right now.



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Seat 2: eastbayplaya ( $985 )
Seat 1: DoYouSeaWhy ( $1000 )


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Who's the third?

[octaveshift]

It's not the same Eastbay.

[octaveshift]

And here is the hand that busted me on the bubble. Villain is a 2+2er. That said, do you like the call?

#Game No : 2359475554
***** Hand History for Game 2359475554 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:13909770 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Wednesday, July 13, 21:45:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 35016 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 9: xyrophobe ( $2175 )
Seat 8: buymesteak ( $2885 )
Seat 2: eastbayplaya ( $2700 )
Seat 6: wojo130 ( $2240 )
Trny:13909770 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobe [ 9c 9s ]
eastbayplaya folds.
wojo130 folds.
buymesteak is all-In [2685]
xyrophobe is all-In [1775]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 5d, Qs ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
buymesteak shows [ 7s, 8s ] a flush, queen high.
xyrophobe shows [ 9c, 9s ] a pair of nines.
buymesteak wins 710 chips from side pot #1 with a flush, queen high.
buymesteak wins 4350 chips from the main pot with a flush, queen high.
xyrophobe finished in fourth place.
ow
brutal
gg
xyrophobe has left the table.
Game #2359479021 starts.

[tigerite]

With 99? In a nanosecond, blinds at 200/400 you won't get a better spot. Plus knowing he's 2+2 he is pushing a wide, wide range of hands here. As was shown.

[Newt_Buggs]

who's DoYouSeaWhy? It seemed like he was on all day today I saw him at so many tables.

[curtains]

JohnHurst, Im saying this since he posted this about 5-10 threads down.

[lastchance]

But if they have that handle, no doubt it's 2+2.

[lastchance]

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Villain is a 2+2er. That said, do you like the call?


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He has 5x BB. It's folded to him in the SB. You have 99. Folding this would be beyond ridiculous.

[durron597]

I checkraise the turn.

[durron597]

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And here is the hand that busted me on the bubble. Villain is a 2+2er. That said, do you like the call?


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Call instantly.

[octaveshift]

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I checkraise the turn.

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Yeah, I considered the same thing, but wussed out. It was so early, I had no read on any the villains.

[durron597]

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Yeah, I considered the same thing, but wussed out. It was so early, I had no read on any the villains.

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What are you worried about? There is exactly one hand where a check-raise is a really terrible idea, and that's the guy with both a jack and a flush draw.

I hate calling the turn, because if you are up against a bigger flush draw and a bigger pair, you're almost certainly not going to have the best hand on the river unless you can limit the field. So either c/r turn or c/f turn, don't call. This does not apply if you are HU on the turn.

[octaveshift]

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What are you worried about? There is exactly one hand where a check-raise is a really terrible idea, and that's the guy with both a jack and a flush draw.

I hate calling the turn, because if you are up against a bigger flush draw and a bigger pair, you're almost certainly not going to have the best hand on the river unless you can limit the field. So either c/r turn or c/f turn, don't call. This does not apply if you are HU on the turn.

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Very insightful, thank you.