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silkyslim
07-13-2005, 01:28 PM
MP1 is fishy according to PT, no specific reads. CO also big fish. I was ahead of everything on the flop, turn Im behind QQ. What do you think of turn raise? It was to get MP1 out and for value against CO donking it up.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (17.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

Sightless
07-13-2005, 01:30 PM
I think you are probably behind two pairor set , but its a big pot so I'd probably play it the same ...-_-
don't listen to me I suck -_-

jrz1972
07-13-2005, 01:52 PM
That's really weird action. I think I just call down, expecting to lose to some retarted two-pair from CO.

SoCalPat
07-13-2005, 02:21 PM
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That's really weird action. I think I just call down, expecting to lose to some retarted two-pair from CO.

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I was thinking the same. MP1 raises and caps PF, yet only calls on the flop and comes out great guns blazing on the turn? There's not a hand he has that really warrants this line that has him ahead of hero. If he's going to cap with QQ PF, he's going to raise the flop vs. this undercard board.

And then the CO bets out the turn? Logically, he has AQ, but this is low limits, so he probably did catch his two pair. And I'm pissed at MP1 for not continuing his maniacal play on the flop and letting the CO have odds to see the turn.

gharp
07-13-2005, 02:23 PM
My first thought was to cap the turn, thinking that villain probably had AQ. But since he capped preflop, and you have two of the Aces, that seems unlikely. So calling down looks good.

I like the turn raise but just because of the value part. I don't know that you really want MP1 out of the hand. If he has AX or a smaller PP (except Q's of course, which he's not folding) then you'd rather he pay you off. In other words, I'd be rooting for him to call the turn raise, not fold (or reraise).

bottomset
07-13-2005, 02:31 PM
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I was ahead of everything on the flop, turn Im behind QQ

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no wonder you play some hands like an idiot lag, you can't evualuate the board worth a damn

here's the hands that you are behind on the flop
54,52,42,22,44,55,A3 most aren't likely at all, but I think you might overapply this I'm only behind xx

turn adds, QQ, Q5,Q4,Q2 to the list of hands

I take it MP did have QQ and you are playing results orientated again

silkyslim
07-13-2005, 03:47 PM
i meant capping hands that I was behind, not CO's hands. and i think you called me an "idiot lag" because of a JTo hand post, which was play money. I didn't mean to play this one like an "idiot lag"

mwilli31
07-13-2005, 03:56 PM
CO's playing KQ or QJ and I've gotta believe MP1 has the other two ladies or KK. But how he didn't bet or raise the flop is beyond me. With the lines they're showing you, I'm not sure I see too many other possibilites unless they go nuts with their pocket pairs PF. I'd play it exactly as you did. Still learning, but my two cents.

toddw8
07-13-2005, 07:29 PM
Turn raise looks just fine. I think I'd cap here as well then just call down if MP1 still leads out on the river.

GTSamIAm
07-13-2005, 07:33 PM
Looks fine to me. You need to raise that turn to punish draws. You get donked because someone thinks his pair of queens is best.

DCWildcat
07-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Looks fine to me.

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no wonder you play some hands like an idiot lag, you can't evualuate the board worth a damn

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Why would you say that?

eviljeff
07-13-2005, 08:36 PM
I think our equity is higher than 1/3, so I cap the turn. anyone else?