closer2313
07-12-2005, 07:09 PM
I guess I have been having trouble playing this hand due to the fact that I play it too passivly.
Hand 1
BB is a LAA, SB is a rock no read on UTG, CO is a calling station
Preflop: I could of raised here, but Ive been reading about how limping with ATo is a good play because your preflop edge is minimal, while if you hit your hand your edge is greatly increased. Im not sure which is the correct play, so any discussion/advice on limping/raising ATo would be nice to hear.
Flop: I missed and its checked to me. Based on reads I dont think I would knock anyone out except for the SB. I check and try to hit my hand.
Turn: An ace!!! I almost certainly have the best hand. The LAA bets, Im sure I have him beat, why didn't I raise? Because im an idiot. I should have raised the turn.
River. Another blank. LAA bets again, I just call. That was stupid. I need to raise here again.
I know overall I missed 2 raises on the turn/river. Im not sure about the preflop play though.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.
Turn: (2.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds.
River: (5.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB
Hand 2
No real reads on either players.
Preflop: I know SSH advocated just limping in EP with ATs. Do you guys find this to be the best play?
Flop: I hit my ace, there is no one to check raise. Im not going to give a free card, so I just bet out.
Turn: Same as flop, no one to check raise, I have to bet out.
River: I bet out, then the BB check raises, I obviously have to call just one bet back to me.
The main question is how to play this hand preflop. Raise or Call, what are the advantages to each. Also, I feel that I need to call that bet on the river, but it obviously looks like he slowplayed a straight,set, or two pair. Am I good often enough to call this bet?
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.
Flop: (3.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls.
Turn: (3.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls.
River: (6.20 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds.
Final Pot: 11.20 BB
Thanks guys!
Hand 1
BB is a LAA, SB is a rock no read on UTG, CO is a calling station
Preflop: I could of raised here, but Ive been reading about how limping with ATo is a good play because your preflop edge is minimal, while if you hit your hand your edge is greatly increased. Im not sure which is the correct play, so any discussion/advice on limping/raising ATo would be nice to hear.
Flop: I missed and its checked to me. Based on reads I dont think I would knock anyone out except for the SB. I check and try to hit my hand.
Turn: An ace!!! I almost certainly have the best hand. The LAA bets, Im sure I have him beat, why didn't I raise? Because im an idiot. I should have raised the turn.
River. Another blank. LAA bets again, I just call. That was stupid. I need to raise here again.
I know overall I missed 2 raises on the turn/river. Im not sure about the preflop play though.
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.
Turn: (2.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds.
River: (5.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB
Hand 2
No real reads on either players.
Preflop: I know SSH advocated just limping in EP with ATs. Do you guys find this to be the best play?
Flop: I hit my ace, there is no one to check raise. Im not going to give a free card, so I just bet out.
Turn: Same as flop, no one to check raise, I have to bet out.
River: I bet out, then the BB check raises, I obviously have to call just one bet back to me.
The main question is how to play this hand preflop. Raise or Call, what are the advantages to each. Also, I feel that I need to call that bet on the river, but it obviously looks like he slowplayed a straight,set, or two pair. Am I good often enough to call this bet?
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.
Flop: (3.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls.
Turn: (3.20 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, BB calls.
River: (6.20 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, MP3 folds.
Final Pot: 11.20 BB
Thanks guys!