Looking for someone to give me Stars money for Prima Poker money

[SaintAces]

I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[mb2696]

[ QUOTE ]
...Can I lose it to you at a table...

[/ QUOTE ]

If you'd like to be screwed for chip dumping.

[moondogg]

[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

The dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount, moran.

$100, not 100$

[Derek132260]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

The dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount, moran.

$100, not 100$

[/ QUOTE ]

There's no such word as "moran" -- it's "moron"...moran.

[JoePro]

[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

Terrible idea. PrimaPoker doesn't like chip dumpers.

Read this thread from casinomeister (http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8642&page=1&pp=10) and take a look at what happened to 'sweetdenny'.

[moondogg]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

The dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount, moran.

$100, not 100$

[/ QUOTE ]

There's no such word as "moran" -- it's "moron"...moran.

[/ QUOTE ]

Interesting theory, however misguided it may be.

[KingMedicine]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

The dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount, moran.

$100, not 100$

[/ QUOTE ]

There's no such word as "moran" -- it's "moron"...moran.

[/ QUOTE ]

Interesting theory, however misguided it may be.

[/ QUOTE ]

well put.

[bpb]

[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

More evidence that # of posts and intelligence level are not directly related.

PS ... I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and am assuming that you are clueless, as opposed to a dirty scammer.

[Jim Kuhn]

As cross posted from the CasinoMeister forum regarding heads up poker chip transfers:

This should be a major concern for all poker players. Poker rooms and casinos should not look for reasons to confiscate players money. If they were cheating the money should be returned as fairly as possible to the players that were cheated.

In this case no players were cheated. This should have been a two week process where investigations concluded that credit card fraud, cheating nor money laundering was taking place. Unless we are missing some information none of these things were happening. Chip dumping in a tourney should lead to entry fees being forfeited and distributed to the other winning players.

I was not even aware that players could not have multiple prima skin accounts. This can also lead to confiscation of player funds? Sites often change their terms and conditions weekly or at least monthly. Simple T&C violations should not lead to confiscation of funds. Common sense should be utilized and the 'punishment should fit the crime'.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
/images/graemlins/spade.gif /images/graemlins/diamond.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[Derek132260]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

The dollar sign goes BEFORE the amount, moran.

$100, not 100$

[/ QUOTE ]

There's no such word as "moran" -- it's "moron"...moran.

[/ QUOTE ]

Interesting theory, however misguided it may be.

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't a theory. There is no such word as "moran." There are cities named "moran" in the states of Kansas, Texas, Wyoming, and Michigan. But as long as we're trusting the dictionary, the word does not exist (unless it's some sort of lingo around here I'm not aware of...which I suppose is possible).

Nonetheless...I was just having a go at you because you had a go at the OP for his dollar sign foulup (and having a go at people for stuff like that is something I find funny).

[Losing all]

Prima looks for reasons to keep the money.

[moondogg]

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/morans.jpg

[Jim Kuhn]

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/morans.jpg

Would you guys believe this is a Cubs fan trying to make St Louis look bad? Yes - that is what it is. Cubswin's real identity comes out!

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
/images/graemlins/spade.gif /images/graemlins/diamond.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[Pokeraddict]

[ QUOTE ]
I am looking for a user willing to let me lose money on Prima to them in exchange for money on Stars.

I have about 100$ on Prima Poker. Can I lose it to you at a table and you transfer me 95$ on Poker Stars?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe the mods should consider a new rule that forbids these potentially fraudulant posts. Users that make these suggestions of trades are often scammers or people who are very misguided and may get an honest player in trouble for something that appears to be chip dumping. At the very least it is almost a lose/lose for anyone taking the OP up on an offer.

As many times as I have seen people screwed here and RGP on thse schemes it seems it would be a good idea to not allow these posts as you would not want a newbie to come in here and fall for one of these scams. It may turn them off to poker completely or at the very least the 2+2 forums.

For you newbies out there FYI there is virtually no reason why anyone would have to do this type of chip dump. For a player to have money on one of these sites to begin with they must have had some sort of online processor run it and they have an account with a widely accepted processor such as Neteller, Firepay or Citadel. If this was legit they would just cash out from the room and deposit it by their processor. If they are not wanting to cash out of a room there could be a degree of fraud involved in their chips. You could transfer this money between yourselves and weeks down the road have your account locked because this other player got these chips through chip dumping, charge backs or some other fraud. Now you look like a participant in the fraud with the thief and your account is locked, possibly forever, with all of your money potentially lost. IMO and in most people's eyes there is no reason to ever help someone you dont know in this situation. It will almost always turn out bad.

Sorry for the PSA but I hate these posts with the number of people I see get screwed I just want to warn the newbies.

[Jim Kuhn]

My viewpoint as taken from a post last month:

[ QUOTE ]
I am not sure what the 'official 2+2 view' is on transfer requests. I will provide what my view is. This may or may not be the same as 2+2's. If not, Mat is welcome to provide feedback and I will moderate per his request.

I think we are all here seeking help from fellow posters. Help may be defined as poker advice, technical pc advice, bonus notifications, deposit/transfer assistance, etc. Assisting others is what a public forum is all about.

That being said all is still 'caveat emptor'. Whether you are helping others or being helped you must utilize common sense. This holds true for money transfers, computer system modifications or any other peer-to-peer assistance.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u



[/ QUOTE ]

Many players do not have online payment processor accounts. These accounts often take days to fully set up. Also poker site to neteller often takes two to seven days. I have helped many players create and fund accounts. On most sites you can transfer money from one account to another.

I do agree with many of your statements though. You need to be very careful when dealing with 'strangers'. I have made a few of these transfers to other players. One was BlueBear, the poster with the problem outlined on CasinoMeister. That transaction went through flawlessly. I have yet to be swindled but it could happen!

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u
/images/graemlins/spade.gif /images/graemlins/diamond.gif /images/graemlins/club.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[mdeck]

Just say the guy was from Louisville.

[Derek132260]

[ QUOTE ]
http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/morans.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this your response?

[IggyWH]

lol@nubz...

pwnd and still come back for more?

[moondogg]

[ QUOTE ]

Is this your response?

[/ QUOTE ]

What part of the act of me responding led you to believe that it may be my response?

My response is SIIHP, the rest is just decoration.

[smartalecc5]

If he gives you the money first- how can you truly be swindled (besides being cuaght for chip dumping?)

[JoePro]

I completely agree with you Jim. If you've read the entire thread @ casinomeister, you'll see that most feel this way (i've even argued about this with their rep).

I was just giving the OP a heads-up on how prima would react to this.

[SaintAces]

I apologize for my post. I suppose I owe an explanation as to why I made the post.

I want money on Poker Stars. It seems to be the best site. It's respectable... ect. I saw a "get an account and Prima and get $10" so I went to a Prima skin, made a name and ran the $10 up. I don't want the money on Prima, I want it on Stars. I am offering to some how get you the money. (I don't think they allow player to player transfers, but if they do, that's obviously better). Stars offers transfers and you could then transfer the amount to me.

I also would like to admit my ignorance of "chip dumping." I am a B&M player and rarely play online. I did not know Prima would deem it very illegal, as it would only involve two players in a heads-up room. Once again, sorry for my ignorance.

Sorry if my topic post was innapropriate or rude.

Thanks for reading.

[Pokeraddict]

[ QUOTE ]
If he gives you the money first- how can you truly be swindled (besides being cuaght for chip dumping?)

[/ QUOTE ]

If the money was dumped/transfered from a hacked account, dumped/transfered from a stolen credit card or Neteller type account or if the player charges back this purchase you could find out weeks down the road long after your money has been transfered. Chargebacks and player fraud much worse then people realize.

Player A deposits $xxx on a bogus account/credit card and goes to a table with player B and dumps it. Player B comes to the boards and says "I will trade $xxx at x room for $xxx at Y room" Even if he transfers this first when the rightful owner of the credit card charges back, or the rightful Neteller owner or bank account holder or whoever charges back your account will be locked and you will lose this money and possibly all of your money there. The poker room will assume you were a part of this fraud.

This is not to say all people who ask this are scammers but if you do not know them and get into this know what could happen. Just because you got your money now doesnt mean you have heard the last about it. Not everyone is as honest as you on the internet.

[witeknite]

Two things. First, sites don't like chip dumping since it could be used to money laundering. Second, why don't you just make that initial deposit into the Prima room and than withdrawl?

WiteKnite

[Pokeraddict]

I saw a "get an account and Prima and get $10" so I went to a Prima skin, made a name and ran the $10 up.

This money probably has some sort of 10x raked hand requirement before a cashout. As soon as you dump this money they will know and if you try to transfer it I am sure either they will deny it or tie the receiver to the raked hand requirement. Also they may require you to prove your identity to make sure you have never taken any of the Primas up on the $10 offer before (im pretty sure you can only hit one of them for a free $10), if you have or gave them a bogus name then they will deny your entire cashout and keep the money. Maybe this is the whole issue.

Here is what you should do. Cash it out to Neteller, it may take a few days but it will al lbe legit and you dont have to worry about someone else taking your money either. This is another warning. If you come here asking for this and send the money first you risk getting screwed. I have seen this several times on RGP by the same sleaze. You have as much to risk as the other end.

Sorry if I am beating a dead horse, I will stop now.

[SaintAces]

All of your arguments are well stated and I agree with you.
Sorry for the trouble everyone...