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Silverback
07-12-2005, 11:25 AM
All games 6 handed

Im interested in how posters play these hand when the pot has been raised by an "average post flop player" with prf% 15 or less.


What do you do the majority of the time?

DMBFan23
07-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Yesterday I folded AJo on the button to a CO open raise in a 5 handed game and I wanted to ask about it on 2+2. the raiser was loose and not too aggressive though, so I thought I was in worse shape than normal. I'd think harder about a 3 bet of a TAG or LAG open raise

MAxx
07-12-2005, 11:58 AM
i said fold, fold, reraise, fold.

Entity
07-12-2005, 12:01 PM
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i said fold, fold, reraise, fold.

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Me too.

Rob

Silverback
07-12-2005, 12:12 PM
Anyone that folds, feel free to state at what points you would consider reraising,

Victor
07-12-2005, 12:18 PM
i 3bet the co raise with ajs. i doubt its a mistake to 3bet with ajo tho.

mungpo
07-12-2005, 02:06 PM
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i said fold, fold, reraise, fold.

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I did too.

btspider
07-12-2005, 02:18 PM
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i said fold, fold, reraise, fold.

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BottlesOf
07-12-2005, 02:21 PM
me 4

J.R.
07-12-2005, 02:33 PM
I'm a 16 pfr and i raise Axs+, A8o+, K8s+, KTo+, Q9s+, J9s+, 55+, and QJo+ from the CO after a utg limp (unless they are real tight) in situation 4.

Are these hands that atypical of what a 15% pfr isolates with here (I realize they may be because I play more passively from the BB and tighter upfront than others and have a slightly higher pfr than 15)?

MAxx
07-12-2005, 02:53 PM
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I'm a 16 pfr and i raise Axs+, A8o+, K8s+, KTo+, Q9s+, J9s+, 55+, and QJo+ from the CO after a utg limp (unless they are real tight) in situation 4.

Are these hands that atypical of what a 15% pfr isolates with here (I realize they may be because I play more passively from the BB and tighter upfront than others and have a slightly higher pfr than 15)?

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IMO, that range is slightly atypical. I'm a 17%er and I don't Isolate with all those... but most.

BottlesOf
07-12-2005, 02:55 PM
I'm a 17 pfr (I think). I don't know that I'd raise the lower ones in that spot (like J9s, Q9s...) Depends on the usual...

J.R.
07-12-2005, 03:02 PM
do you think he is isolating with less/more hands than these? these are like 12% of all hands.


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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 50.2924 % 45.77% 04.52% { AJo }
Hand 2: 49.7076 % 45.19% 04.52% { 77+, A6s+, KTs+, QJs, A9o+, KJo+ }

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PokerBob
07-12-2005, 03:41 PM
UGH. I 3-bet them all.

EDIT: I assumed pfr was EXACTLY 15%, as I am illiterate.

MAxx
07-12-2005, 05:06 PM
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do you think he is isolating with less/more hands than these? these are like 12% of all hands.


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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 50.2924 % 45.77% 04.52% { AJo }
Hand 2: 49.7076 % 45.19% 04.52% { 77+, A6s+, KTs+, QJs, A9o+, KJo+ }

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I think he is islating with a few more such as......KTo, maybe K9s..maybe another Axs or two, maybe another pocket or two, QTs, JTs....

I basically just didnt think quite Axs or J9s/Q9s... So i'd say somthing that lands inbetween your 1st range of given hands and your second range of hands. We would just be talking about tweeking the fringe.

Sidenote..... is it dumb to prefer QTs over A2s?