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dark_horse
07-12-2005, 04:47 AM
no reads.

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MP2 ($26.60)
MP3 ($27.45)
CO ($5.50)
Button ($103.55)
SB ($119.20)
BB ($46.25)
UTG ($58.50)
Hero ($35.70)
MP1 ($35.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($10) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3, MP1 calls $3, CO folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($19) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, BB calls $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($34) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $28.5</font>, Hero..

Malachii
07-12-2005, 04:55 AM
Instamucks. I would have folded this on the flop.

boondockst
07-12-2005, 05:12 AM
I think he's referring to having the 2nd nut flush on a paired board maybe?

Malachii
07-12-2005, 05:19 AM
I still fold. And having the second nut flush is pretty useless IMO when you're not going to get much action unless you're beat.

PokerCat69
07-12-2005, 05:25 AM
Fold the flop.

dark_horse
07-12-2005, 02:02 PM
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Fold the flop.

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Flop bettor is giving you proper odds to draw to a flush, albeit the 2nd nut flush. I suppose once you make your flush, however, you're not getting much action unless you're beat, as another poster said. But you have the odds for what's in the pot, so even if you do make the best hand, you don't need action based on the pot odds on the flop.

On the turn, the flop bettor shuts down, and now MP1 comes to life. Maybe I should have bet turn and if raised a good amount by MP1 I can get away from it right there, knowing I won't have odds for my 2 outs (Royal/Straight Flush draws), comfortable with the idea that he has the A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, which is the only card that beats me at this point, so it's hard to lay down for these small bets.

Results: I called, MP1 says "A high flush" and FOLDS. SB turns over Q6 and takes the pot. If I weren't in the pot he probably would have called. In his position I'm probably folding too.

Jocke_F
07-12-2005, 02:15 PM
I think the flop and turn calls are fine, but I would for sure fold the river, the board pairing and then BB comes back firing out is ugly as hell, and you have MP1 to act behind you that might very well have the Ah