2/4 party nl 6 max - ak hand

[bobbysteels]

read on villain. i see him a lot, seems decent but not great. a few hands before i had checked top pair medium kicker (i think i had t9) from ep on flop, called his pot bet (unraised pot). then lead 30 on the turn into 45 pot when a blank fell. villain raises all in, 230 more. interesting.

hero (400) dealt ako in mp. raises to 15. villain on button calls. no other players.

flop is K94 rainbow. hero leads 25 into 30ish pot. villain min raises to 50. hero calls.

turn pairs the 4. hero checks, villain bets 75 into 130 pot. he has 175 more behind it, hero has him covered. your move?

[nopepper]

puuuuuuuush

[MarkL444]

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puuuuuuuush

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why not call and push the river?

[EverettKings]

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why not call and push the river?

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What hand would fold to your turn push but not to the river push?

Also, a card could come and kill your action. An Ace wouldn't make KQ happy, and if there's a flush draw out there (OP didn't mention suits) that could dry up the pot as well.

Kings

[bobbysteels]

sorry, rainbow on turn.

[nopepper]

i would hate to have kq or kj fold here...to a river that brings a scare card. i still like the puuuush

[bobhalford]

Maybe this is too aggressive, but I reraise him on the flop to make him pay for raising me with such a stupid hand like KJ/KQ/KT. In fact, I might just go all in on the flop.

[bobbysteels]

i popped his 75 up to 225 on the turn. he called and put his last 25 in, and turned over k9 and took it down. good to see you all would play it the same, thanks for the responses.

[JeffM]

Its a "way ahead/way behind situation". For this reason I don't repop the turn. Would have bet the turn, but since you didn't I would just call his bet. You beat KQ, KJ, K10 or a bluff, all of which you don't want to discourage from playing on. I might even check raise the river if another blank hits. This way, you get the bluff to continue bluffing, KQ - K10 will still bet and will probably call a raise at that point and you will get more. If you push the turn or the river you will get the bluff to go away as well as the weaker K's to maybe get away altogether. If he has two pair or a set you are way behind and are gonna lose some dough anyway, but you wanna maximize the money you get from the times that you're way ahead to make up for this. By the way, could you please make your posts a little tougher to read?

[Alex/Mugaaz]

Am I the only one who thinks the only real mistake in this hand was the small bet pre-flop which made all this possible?

[fimbulwinter]

if he's sane you have 2-5 outs.

fold

fim

[warlockjd]

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if he's sane you have 2-5 outs.

fold

fim


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[bobbysteels]

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if he's sane you have 2-5 outs.

fold

fim


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care to expound? also my open raise was standard

[warlockjd]

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care to expound? also my open raise was standard

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A major problem I have with these forums is the collective urge to shove it all in there with 1 pair or TPTK hands in the Party 6 max game without a read.


I play the $400 games, and at least 80% of the time, a raise here (mini or otherwise) means you are beat on the flop. In fact, I assert that people who always advise pushing it all in with one pair top hands can not beat the Party 6max $400 game, except possibly latenight weekends.


You also described villain as somewhat decent which seals the deal for me.

Perhaps other $400 6max players disagree, I'm sure we will hear from them.