5-10 NL in AC whats the game look like.

[arod15]

Heres the deal. I am very succesful at the 1-2 NL game down in AC. Which really says absolutly nothing as the games at that level are absolutly terrible. If you read on book and stick to it you shouild be consistently crushing the games. My bankroll is starting to get to the level where i could play the 5-10. Just curious to those who play it how if plays? I heard from mnay its the same fish with more money? Just cuirous how much harder this games play. I need to move up soon because i want to improve. Its just hard to leave the 1-2 game since it is the closest you get to free money in this world. Its almost 0 risk.

[neotope]

Why are you skipping the 2/5 NL game?

[arod15]

I played the 2-5 in new york and crushed it too. Also the 2-5 in AC barly exists there are more 5-10 games going thats why i plan on skipping. Evrey time i sign up for the 2-5 game the waits are unbearable which leads me to play table games which is the biggest leak in my game. But thats another story.

[CCx]

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Also the 2-5 in AC barly exists there are more 5-10 games going thats why i plan on skipping. Evrey time i sign up for the 2-5 game the waits are unbearable which leads me to play table games which is the biggest leak in my game. But thats another story.

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Your first sentence and your second sentence dont go together. How can the wait times be unbearable for a game that barely exists?

There are plenty of 2-5NL games for you to play in AC.

[neotope]

I was going to say, my sample size may be small, but when I've been to AC I've only played 2/5 NL. Granted I've only played at the The Borgata and the Taj. However from now on unless I play in a tournament I will be only playing at The Borgata which always has a 2/5 game going.

[DamnRinger]

ya the 2-5 NL game is clearly the next step for you. And from what i've noticed the wait on a 2/5 table is typically shorter than that of the 1/2 game. I think you are leaping to the wrong level if you play 5/10 NL from 1/2 NL.

[jrforman]

Here's an idea...Put ur name on the 2/5 list, play at 1/2 and build a stack there...Get called to 2/5 take your stack there and see what you can do...Jumping that much is idiotic and your variance will go through the roof

[AZK]

The 5/10 at the borg sucks, the 2/5 though is incredible. Play that.

[arod15]

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The 5/10 at the borg sucks, the 2/5 though is incredible. Play that.

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Please discuss why you say this? Why does the 5-10 suck?

Also like i said i play 2-5 in NYC quite a lot so it wouldnt be a huge jump . And i wont like i prob will play the 2 5 a few times in AC before moving up but what does the 5-10 play like? Please discuss thanks.

[Maulik]

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The 5/10 at the borg sucks, the 2/5 though is incredible. Play that.

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Please discuss why you say this? Why does the 5-10 suck?

Also like i said i play 2-5 in NYC quite a lot so it wouldnt be a huge jump . And i wont like i prob will play the 2 5 a few times in AC before moving up but what does the 5-10 play like? Please discuss thanks.

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cut out table games unless we've got dragons at the table worth playing with.

if you want to play nl 5/10 play it online first. its clearly tricker online so that would be a good place to start and the casino would be a great place to clean house

[arod15]

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The 5/10 at the borg sucks, the 2/5 though is incredible. Play that.

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Please discuss why you say this? Why does the 5-10 suck?

Also like i said i play 2-5 in NYC quite a lot so it wouldnt be a huge jump . And i wont like i prob will play the 2 5 a few times in AC before moving up but what does the 5-10 play like? Please discuss thanks.

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cut out table games unless we've got dragons at the table worth playing with.

if you want to play nl 5/10 play it online first. its clearly tricker online so that would be a good place to start and the casino would be a great place to clean house

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Lets leave my stu unger like table games problems out of this. I think id loose a huge adv playing 5-10 online you know this. How about that dragon behind you at the bacarrat table MY GOD

[Maulik]

the girl was money, needless to say.

i think playing higher stakes onine will better prepare you for your live play. i know you lose the edge of your reads but online there are plenty of bad players, apparently myself included.

[Loves Kauai]

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The 5/10 at the borg sucks.

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That's never been my experience, at least on the weekends. Almost every time I've sat down in the 5/10 at Borgata, there's been at least two major donators at the table with large wallets and no playing skills. For example, on Saturday, we has a guy who went through at least $2,500 in four hours making awful plays. On a hand where it was clear to the rest of the table that I was on a diamond flush draw, he goes all in ($575) acting first when the third diamond hits on the turn. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif We also had our share of hands with 6-7 people seeing the flop, people calling raises OOP with dominated hands, etc.

Yes, you will run into some good tricky LAGs at that game. However, if you pay attention to the players and pick your spots carefully, the game can be very profitable, even for someone like me (who is hardly anyone's idea of an expert NL player).

The 2/5 can also be a very profitable game. If you have the bankroll (a very important if), I would not shy away from the 5/10.

LK

[arod15]

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The 5/10 at the borg sucks.

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That's never been my experience, at least on the weekends. Almost every time I've sat down in the 5/10 at Borgata, there's been at least two major donators at the table with large wallets and no playing skills. For example, on Saturday, we has a guy who went through at least $2,500 in four hours making awful plays. On a hand where it was clear to the rest of the table that I was on a diamond flush draw, he goes all in ($575) acting first when the third diamond hits on the turn. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif We also had our share of hands with 6-7 people seeing the flop, people calling raises OOP with dominated hands, etc.

Yes, you will run into some good tricky LAGs at that game. However, if you pay attention to the players and pick your spots carefully, the game can be very profitable, even for someone like me (who is hardly anyone's idea of an expert NL player).

The 2/5 can also be a very profitable game. If you have the bankroll (a very important if), I would not shy away from the 5/10.

LK

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Thanks for the info that is what i heard. And i did have the bankroll but BJ and baccarat have collectivly destroyed it back to where 2/5 becomes a strecth time to get back to work.

[canis582]

baccarat? Don't you have to wear a tux to play that game?

[arod15]

No just have to have green a lot of it. Its mopney highroller central. WHich is wierd considering is the eq of betting on heads or taols with a 5% commision

[Maulik]

can anyone confirm if it is as simple as flipping a coin?

also, its closer to 2.5% if you don't pay the 5% rake on losing hands

[Jeffage]

I can confirm that. You simply have to guess player or banker and have no control over the outcome whatsoever. The game is fun, but deadly. Play with entertainment money only.

Jeff

[GreywolfNYC]

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I can confirm that. You simply have to guess player or banker and have no control over the outcome whatsoever. The game is fun, but deadly. Play with entertainment money only.
Jeff

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I'm pretty sure Sklansky wrote that you cannot beat the game. I also seem to recall him calling it a "stupid" game or words to that effect.

[Maulik]

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I can confirm that. You simply have to guess player or banker and have no control over the outcome whatsoever. The game is fun, but deadly. Play with entertainment money only.
Jeff

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the game is stupid the girls are beautiful.

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I'm pretty sure Sklansky wrote that you cannot beat the game. I also seem to recall him calling it a "stupid" game or words to that effect.

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[BDOG4]

Cutting threw all the bulls**t here, to answer your question, The Taj and Borgata 5-10 is generally loose. I play regularly 5-10 or 10-20 at the Taj and find the game pretty easy. I makes for a pretty good side job.. But expect a couple of bad beats because fishing tourist with full pockets will call to the riv w/ anything. Play only strong hands and be agressive. Dont let them see anything for free. And keep the bluffing to a quiet roar. Very different game than nl. You usually need the best hand to win because 90 percent of hands get shown down. A bankroll of about 500 will get u off to a good star. Good luck.

[Maulik]

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Cutting threw all the bulls**t here, to answer your question, The Taj and Borgata 5-10 is generally loose. I play regularly 5-10 or 10-20 at the Taj and find the game pretty easy. I makes for a pretty good side job.. But expect a couple of bad beats because fishing tourist with full pockets will call to the riv w/ anything. Play only strong hands and be agressive. Dont let them see anything for free. And keep the bluffing to a quiet roar. Very different game than nl. You usually need the best hand to win because 90 percent of hands get shown down. A bankroll of about 500 will get u off to a good star. Good luck.

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it feels as though you are describing a 5/10 or 10/20 limit game? a bankroll of $500 in a $5/10 NL game is severly underrolling.