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tlow03
07-10-2005, 09:53 PM
***** Hand History for Game 2343736969 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:13827904 Level:2 Blinds (10/20) - Sunday, July 10, 21:36:16 EDT 2005
Table 2 - Table(390951) Table #1 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: spasky ( $1843 )
Seat 2: J210Q998 ( $1460 )
Seat 3: pfbbean ( $975 )
Seat 5: Hero( $985 )
Seat 6: capshooter ( $925 )
Seat 7: Kteezdaddee ( $977 )
Seat 8: ltmewn ( $590 )
Seat 9: hangwire11 ( $985 )
Seat 10: gbaker001 ( $1260 )
Trny:13827904 Level:2
Blinds (10/20)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero[ Ac As ]
>You have options at Table 11592 Table!.
hangwire11 folds.
gbaker001 calls [20].
spasky calls [20].
J210Q998 folds.
pfbbean folds.
>You have options at Table 12160 Table!.
rileytlow raises [85].
capshooter folds.
Kteezdaddee folds.
ltmewn folds.
>You have options at Table 12160 Table!.
gbaker001 calls [65].
>You have options at Table 11592 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12160 Table!.
spasky folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 2h, 6s ]
gbaker001 checks.
rileytlow bets [175].
gbaker001 calls [175].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
gbaker001 checks.
rileytlow bets [400].
gbaker001 calls [400].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
gbaker001 checks.
rileytlow checks.
gbaker001 shows [ 4c, Ad ] a straight, four to eight.
rileytlow doesn't show [ Ac, As ] a pair of aces.
gbaker001 wins 1370 chips from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.

I know that this guy is a moron, but when the flop comes out like this, should I just push?

tminus
07-10-2005, 11:19 PM
at first i was asking myself what he would call with preflop and then i remembered that they will do that with anything

playing with loose passive players like this is most frustrating because all they want to do is see the flop.
BUT they will usually fold to your flop bet if they didnt hit the board somehow....even low pair/middle pair or draws and this is what you might ask yourself next time. his call is telling you that he has something but is afraid to bet.

the board became pretty well connected on the turn and this is where you got reamed....i may have checked or bet less here

do i have the discipline to lay it down? probably not


BTW - dont post the results next time and fix your post (Hero/name), you get more replys that way

tlow03
07-10-2005, 11:35 PM
Thanks for the advice w/ the posting stuff, as you can tell by my count I don't post much. Unfortunately the forum won't let edit my post now.

Nottom
07-10-2005, 11:41 PM
In future HHs don't edit your name to Hero at the beginning then leave it for the rest of the hand. Just makes it more confusing.

I'd raise a little more preflop after 2 limpers, probably make it an even 100.

I don't see any reason to push the flop, I think your post-flop play is fine here.

Nottom
07-10-2005, 11:43 PM
[ QUOTE ]

do i have the discipline to lay it down? probably not



[/ QUOTE ]

Where would you have layed this down? When you were a 4-1 favorite on the turn, or to the river check?

lastchance
07-10-2005, 11:49 PM
I push the turn. There's about 400 in the pot, and that's over 40% of your stack = push turn, and lose when he hits his 4 outer.

Nottom
07-10-2005, 11:55 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I push the turn. There's about 400 in the pot, and that's over 40% of your stack = push turn, and lose when he hits his 4 outer.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not a big fan of overbets postflop without a good reason. I usually want a call here, not a fold.

And he had 8 outs.

tminus
07-11-2005, 10:47 AM
id bet less on turn and then check, i just dont like the connected cards

Nicholasp27
07-11-2005, 11:12 AM
every bet he called, he did not have the odds to call, but he did, so every call earned you some $ in the long run

i think this is fine...if u push and he folds, u don't get the extra ev from him calling...sure it didn't work out this time, but it will more often than not...

all u can do is set the odds such that they don't favor him and hope he bites...that's what casinos do with roulette/craps/slots/etc