Correct AK hand at 30+3?

[gildwulf]

I'm still working on AK...please critique.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t785)
BB (t860)
UTG (t240)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t775)
MP2 (t605)
MP3 (t920)
CO (t1445)
Hero (t770)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t30</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, MP3 calls t30, Hero raises [all-in]<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t112.50

[Shillx]

I would just call here. It isn't so much that I'm worried about running into AA or KK, but I really don't want to race against 77 or TT at this point. Take a flop and see what happens. I would like pushing much more with QQ since you will see lower pairs call all the time.

Brad

[gildwulf]

You would take AK against possibly 5 opponents?

[Insomnia]

Isnt AK a drawing hand? I mean you only have ace high. The more poeple in the more chance some1 might call you down with AQ? Just my thoughts, i might be completly wrong though :P

[gildwulf]

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Isnt AK a drawing hand? I mean you only have ace high. The more poeple in the more chance some1 might call you down with AQ? Just my thoughts, i might be completly wrong though :P

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I will let Citanul have his way with this post:P

[Insomnia]

Be easy ive been playing for less than 3 months /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MagnoliasFM]

I like calling here too because of your position. Because it's a $33 the donkeys who call all-ins with A-x suited are no longer the majority of players.

[mlagoo]

i'm not sure why you dont just raise to something like 150.. 200 tops.

seems like going allin is a pretty big overbet.

[rydazzle]

Ive been following your posts on AK pushes, I want to hear what Citanul has to say.

I dont know if Im on board with these pushes just yet, but that can change....a min raise from UTG seems fishy (i.e. suspicious), what hands can you do this with? AA, KK, maybe QQ and AK (assuming reasonably competant player)? everything else would be a big raise. A re-raise seems like the best way to thin guys out and gain some more info...especially in level 1

[gildwulf]

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i'm not sure why you dont just raise to something like 150.. 200 tops.

seems like going allin is a pretty big overbet.

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Search for my other post on AK...I got pwned by Citanul.

[mlagoo]

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i'm not sure why you dont just raise to something like 150.. 200 tops.

seems like going allin is a pretty big overbet.

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Search for my other post on AK...I got pwned by Citanul.

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hmm... i think i disagree with citanul here. i think you're losing out on chips. i think the donks at the low buyins are much more likely to call with a low pocket pair than with a weak ace. and I don't want to be racing 90% of the time I'm called.

What I do want is to make a decent raise, get called by AT, and get paid off when an A flops. I just think in the long run this is the better line.

I totally disagree with calling -- but I don't agree with pushing either.

[gildwulf]

I agree calling is not an option here...I was convinced by Citanul that pushing is good here...

[mlagoo]

well if we all played the same, it would be pretty boring

[rydazzle]

The other posts from Citanul were different spots though - I dont recall you posting one from level 1...I could be wrong.

[Shillx]

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I agree calling is not an option here...I was convinced by Citanul that pushing is good here...

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I'd be shocked if pushing had a higher EV then flat calling.

[gildwulf]

Post is here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=2804527&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;s b=5&amp;o=)...lvl 2

[curtains]

I call too and play accordingly. Dont be scared of all the players. If an ace or king comes "usually" you will be good and a lot of the times you arent, it will be obvious and youll be able to let it go without losing your whole stack.

[rydazzle]

yup, thats strikingly similar. I have this on my favorites too - what a moron.

to nit, its a raise from MP though...UTG min raise is scary

[curtains]

btw one quick note, even though I support calling preflop, Pushing is definitely not bad.