***RAPTOR's NEW CAR CHALLENGE.. 20 in 20!!***

[raptor517]

ok, so. im back from vegas. yay. the girlie is here till sunday. great. what i want to do, is buy a new car. what i want.. im not sure yet, but there is always time to figure that out..

so anyways, to the meat. im gonna play about 50958069830964092457928174981279857827958672972602 37059872969287436984732908638650934759823798756892 7609280480329759082379528375982375 sngs by the end of the month. and yes, that is an EXACT number. i cashed everything down to 10k between my accounts. no cashouts until the end of the month. if i run the accounts to 30k total, its car time. thats the goal. 20k, 20 days. that should cover the down payment at least. bwahhhahahahhaa. ok so this post is kinda pointless, but thats the goal. 20 in 20. who wants to join me in my quest???? (you have to stay away from the 215s though, theyll be too tough with 205809238095829385239859 people in them. holla

[TheUsher]

I'm definitely joining this challenge. Sounds like fun. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ok my goals will be... some extra cash to fix up my car (already have a decent amount set aside but need more), and need money for a new kitchen to help out at home. 215's here I come! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[jeffraider]

buy a BMW M3 they're dope okay.

[raptor517]

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buy a BMW M3 they're dope okay.

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thats very close to the top of the list. holla

[runner4life7]

yeah ill do that except ill do 2000 in 20.... ok ill shoot for 4000 in 20, 200 a day, thats pretty much the same as yours

[handsome]

Man, talk about pressure. I'll lowball and make a goal of $1K in 20 days. No probs.

[lacky]

do I have to actually buy the car, or can I just use the money for daipers and stuff?

Steve

[TheUsher]

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do I have to actually buy the car, or can I just use the money for daipers and stuff?

Steve

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Damn lacky I didn't know you were THAT old. Too much information IMHO. /images/graemlins/frown.gif j/k

[raptor517]

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do I have to actually buy the car, or can I just use the money for daipers and stuff?

Steve

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Damn lacky I didn't know you were THAT old. Too much information IMHO. /images/graemlins/frown.gif j/k

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ahahhahahhaa. you ARE old lacky. not skipper old, but old. carpal tunnel.. ewwwwww. thats ok tho, u get to support a family playing a game at home. NUTS!!! holla

[fluorescenthippo]

well i did 2000 in the last 2 days, but then my luckbox broke. ill try for 6000 in the next 18

[raptor517]

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well i did 2000 in the last 2 days, but then my luckbox broke. ill try for 6000 in the next 18

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what u gonna be playing? i would be happy as can be if i could just do 1k a day. it should avg out to quite a bit more than that, but variance is a BATCH!!! holla

[citanul]

i am going to try to make $1 by the end of the month. before rakeback. that should beat raptor's pre-rakeback numbers at least.

jk, i'm gonna shoot for $7,500 by the end of the month, playing only weekdays.

citanul

[bkbluedevil]

You want some side action on whether or not you can get that much before rakeback?

[DonButtons]

Im in too, also want to buy a new car before I leave to college, already got $25k locked up for the car, and already made 6-7k in the past 4 days, so ship it.

I also like the m3, but with a new one coming out soon, why buy it now? Ill prob. get the CLK 55 amg or something /images/graemlins/smile.gif Or maybe just buy the m3 and trade it in for the new one?

[citanul]

i kinda thought i heard you were taking a year off or something?

citanul

[fluorescenthippo]

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well i did 2000 in the last 2 days, but then my luckbox broke. ill try for 6000 in the next 18

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what u gonna be playing? i would be happy as can be if i could just do 1k a day. it should avg out to quite a bit more than that, but variance is a BATCH!!! holla

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the 2k heater was at the 30s. ill be moving up to the 50s in two days however. 8 tabling of course

[hobbes9324]

The M3 is nice - bought the wife one - but plan on adopting a mechanic - freaking oil change is $200.

But it's a blast to drive.......

[DonButtons]

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i kinda thought i heard you were taking a year off or something?

citanul

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decided to go back to school, don't feel like spending $40-$50k a year in expenses YET. LOL.

Plus, I can have some type of life other than poker in school.

[minwoo]

What limit are you guys playing at?

Raptor, you said the 215s are too tough, are you going to be playing at the 109s?

[Degen]

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20 in 20

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Talk enuff smack in the chatbox and make em call all in with ten hi ON THE FLOP and you should be able to do 20 by monday /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[HighestCard]

M3 is a good choice, but I would go for the 06' Z06. Using chevy's new "454" 7.0 Liter LS7 (its really a 455 but they wanted the nostalgia of the 454). Anyway 500 hp and an all aluminum frame plus the floor board made out of balsawood and carbon fiber composites. You know what this should be in a car forum, but cars are my second passion, after poker...or maybe the other way around. I guess it depends on my luckbox for the day. If its in overdrive ill take poker, if its stuck in first ill take cars... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[joeblo]

How many tables are u playing at a time and for how many hours a day to play 2k in 2 days?

I'm trying to play like 1k a month!!!!

[raptor517]

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What limit are you guys playing at?

Raptor, you said the 215s are too tough, are you going to be playing at the 109s?

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they are NOT too tough with the new level now. they seem much softer than i remember. since the level change, i have taken 2 trips to vegas so havent played much, but did about 500 with good success. holla

[raptor517]

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You want some side action on whether or not you can get that much before rakeback?

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lol, if i cant do 4.5% in the 215s, ill quit poker forever. basically, thats me saying ill take unlimited action on the bet. holla

[citanul]

i'm lazy, how many would you have to play to get there without rakeback by the end of the month?

i have found that the games have changed in a really strange way since the change. it seems like at all buyin levels, people are busting out in like the same number of hands as they used to, until about the bubble. meaning you're getting 5 and 4 handed about a full level earlier, sometimes 2! than you used to. very odd stuff. additionally this means that there's more "poker" to be played once in the money, meaning a player who knows what he's doing instead of just push folding has chances to have extra advantages deeper in the tournaments.

citanul

[raptor517]

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i'm lazy, how many would you have to play to get there without rakeback by the end of the month?

i have found that the games have changed in a really strange way since the change. it seems like at all buyin levels, people are busting out in like the same number of hands as they used to, until about the bubble. meaning you're getting 5 and 4 handed about a full level earlier, sometimes 2! than you used to. very odd stuff. additionally this means that there's more "poker" to be played once in the money, meaning a player who knows what he's doing instead of just push folding has chances to have extra advantages deeper in the tournaments.

citanul

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this should be cake. really. assuming a 5% roi with no rakeback, i have to play 1860.46 sngs, or 93.02 per day. like i said. cake. if i finish 20k earlier, ill take the rest of the month off and play the 11r on stars all day every day. then go drive in my new car. holla

[citanul]

sounds like a plan.

man, now i'm thinking "hey, i should go, buy a 2nd monitor and a new graphics card, and pwn the end of this month." goddamn you.

i just never put in the numbers like you do.

citanul

[TheUsher]

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M3 is a good choice, but I would go for the 06' Z06. Using chevy's new "454" 7.0 Liter LS7 (its really a 455 but they wanted the nostalgia of the 454). Anyway 500 hp and an all aluminum frame plus the floor board made out of balsawood and carbon fiber composites. You know what this should be in a car forum, but cars are my second passion, after poker...or maybe the other way around. I guess it depends on my luckbox for the day. If its in overdrive ill take poker, if its stuck in first ill take cars... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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^^^ My next car probably. Do you happen to have a Z06 right now?

[Mr_J]

Well give me 7-10 days to get up to the 109s and maybe I'll join you. Funny cause this sounds crazy, but 20k is 8% ROI at the 109s, 90 sngs a day for 20 days and I think I could do that.

At the $215s shouldn't you be able to do this actually playing less than you normally do? At 10% it'd only take around what 800 sngs?? That's only 40 a day.

[raptor517]

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Well give me 7-10 days to get up to the 109s and maybe I'll join you. Funny cause this sounds crazy, but 20k is 8% ROI at the 109s, 90 sngs a day for 20 days and I think I could do that.

At the $215s shouldn't you be able to do this actually playing less than you normally do? At 10% it'd only take around what 800 sngs?? That's only 40 a day.

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10% 8 tabling 215s isnt quite as easy as everyone that has never done it seems to think.. i never expect to do better than that, and i always set my goals accordingly. holla

[Mr_J]

Screw the ZO6, take the engine and throw it into an Ultima GTR. World's fastest car btw (not top speed, but 0-60, 0-100, 0-150-0, 1/4 mile and skidpad).

[Mr_J]

"10% 8 tabling 215s isnt quite as easy as everyone that has never done it seems to think"

Not saying it is, was thinking that might be the ballpark figure you're shooting for.

[Newt_Buggs]

I don't know how you guys do this, I tried playing for 4 hours straight today and as I was winding down the tables on one hand I thought I had a straight when I didn't....

[raptor517]

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I don't know how you guys do this, I tried playing for 4 hours straight today and as I was winding down the tables on one hand I thought I had a straight when I didn't....

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its a skill game, some are better than others /images/graemlins/grin.gif holla

[HighestCard]

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^^^ My next car probably. Do you happen to have a Z06 right now?


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Man I wish i did. It would be great fun in the sports car club I'm in at my college. Theres one problem...I am an 18 year old sophmore in college that has an $850 BR playing Pokerroom 11's with 7500 in student loans already. I would buy one if i could turn into a "raptor" overnight and multi the 215's with a 10% ROI...

[raptor517]

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^^^ My next car probably. Do you happen to have a Z06 right now?


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Man I wish i did. It would be great fun in the sports car club I'm in at my college. Theres one problem...I am an 18 year old sophmore in college that has an $850 BR playing Pokerroom 11's with 7500 in student loans already. I would buy one if i could turn into a "raptor" overnight and multi the 215's with a 10% ROI...

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i have leaks though. if i just played poker id be driving a 911 turbo instead of an explorer. holla

[citanul]

leaks are sort of like, what makes life good. sometimes.

citanul

[raptor517]

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leaks are sort of like, what makes life good. sometimes.

citanul

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trust me, not these leaks. holla

[citanul]

bah, you're like 15, the entertainment ev you get from blowing 20k playing pai gow must be *somewhere* close to the actual ev you give up throwing it away, right? i mean, the money is near totally fungeable to you.

citanul

[HighestCard]

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i have leaks though. if i just played poker id be driving a 911 turbo instead of an explorer. holla

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I figured you guys would have gotten rid of all of your leaks at that level... I was sure leaky when I started.
100 dollar inital investment in Januaray this year turned into 850 with the 100 investment out...I know I got lucky but I pluged alota leaks..

[citanul]

he's talking about non poker leaks. like his habit of lighting $100 bills on fire and shoving them in expensive skrippas mouths.

citanul

[raptor517]

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i have leaks though. if i just played poker id be driving a 911 turbo instead of an explorer. holla

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I figured you guys would have gotten rid of all of your leaks at that level... I was sure leaky when I started.
100 dollar inital investment in Januaray this year turned into 850 with the 100 investment out...I know I got lucky but I pluged alota leaks..

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yea, def talking about non poker leaks. like what cit said. i like lighting bongs with flaming hundos. holla

[Mr_J]

"i like lighting bongs with flaming hundos. holla "

I'm gonna just PM you my neteller info.

[Iamafish]

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yea, def talking about non poker leaks. like what cit said. i like lighting bongs with flaming hundos. holla

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Raptor you smoke? And man, what a waist.

Last time I got high, I tried playing poker the next day and it was like I had to relearn everything.

Looks like I'll be doing it agian tomorrow. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[freemoney]

do u ever get burned out of SnGs im really struggling in just getting in the hours, especially when im running good, do u ever play anything else to switch it up rather than SnGs?

[Iamafish]

You can play MTT's or some NL cash if you've got it made for the month.

Is poker your source of income?

[Mr_J]

"im really struggling in just getting in the hour"

Same. Probally just scared of making money. For me it's all about getting started. Once I've played for an hr I can go another 7, it's just getting those first few started. I've found that if you spread it out throughout the day it seems less like 'work' and more like a chore. I'm just doing 2-3 sessions of 2hrs a day. Usually 1 when I wake up, 1 after lunch and sometimes 1 in the evening. 2 sessions is around 45 sngs and is pretty easy to do.

BTW, when I started 8tabling I started playing sets. Now I've done a dozen or so sets I've found they suck. With 8tabling a set takes around an hr. Running sngs continuously has to see 40%+ turnover.

[astarck]

Raptor, it's about time. These challenges are LONG overdue.

Count me in, although my reasons for playing and goals are different. I made a small bet with my brother that I could make more money playing poker/working at my small-time hourly job this month than he could at his summer job. I won't go into specifics but his hourly rate is double mine (sad, I know). I cannot play poker full-time, or anywhere close to full-time for that matter. My goal is to make 1k playing the 33s (4-tabling).

With my job and poker that should be enough to win.

Note: I will be on vacation for a week. My challenge actually started on the 1st and will go until the 31st.

[Mr_J]

Let's say $650 per 100 sngs at lower buyins and $1k per 100 sngs at the 109s. Plan is to play 900 sngs. It's not about ROI for me, but about averaging 40-50 sngs a day.

[raptor517]

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yea, def talking about non poker leaks. like what cit said. i like lighting bongs with flaming hundos. holla

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Raptor you smoke? And man, what a waist.

Last time I got high, I tried playing poker the next day and it was like I had to relearn everything.

Looks like I'll be doing it agian tomorrow. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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only on special occasions /images/graemlins/wink.gif u no how we do. holla

[ChoicestHops]

Infiniti G35. It's sexy and you can get a 2003 for around $25k. Insurance won't be too expensive on it either compared to more expensive cars you could buy.

Of course you could drop 40k or something on a car, but personally I'd bank the majority of my money as a G35 looks clean as hell and it's cheap.

[raptor517]

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Infiniti G35. It's sexy and you can get a 2003 for around $25k. Insurance won't be too expensive on it either compared to more expensive cars you could buy.

Of course you could drop 40k or something on a car, but personally I'd bank the majority of my money as a G35 looks clean as hell and it's cheap.

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ewwww.. thats like what a 5.8 0-60? im not a huge fan of that. too damn slow. im looking at the m3, lotus elise, and subaru wrx sti. sti is cheapest, so may be very doable. who knows. z06 is a bit out of the range right now.. maybe in 6 months. holla

[Voltron87]

porshce 911 turbo carbiolet.



http://content2.us.porsche.com/prod/911/911_common.nsf/Resources/tu_gallery_exterior03/$file/stg_3.jpg



holla

[astarck]

Damn you and your challenges. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Just got through a 14 OOTM streak and am OOTM in 20 of my last 24. Must be all the 2+2ers at my tables.

[ChoicestHops]

I dont know what alot of companies will insure. I knew a guy who was 18 who wanted to get a new Porsche Boxter under his dad's name and they wouldn't insure him.

But like you said, if you want something fast then obviously a g35 isnt for you. Get the M3. It's a BMW and chick magnet.

[Mr_J]

"z06 is a bit out of the range right now"

What?? That's just 4 months of 8 tabling the $109s @ 10%.

I'm gonna get an Ultima Can-am. Topless, sex on wheels in black, does 0-60 in about 4 with a stock LS1. Upgrade it to a 20k engine and see 0-60 in under 3. Course you gotta build it yourself (for around 40-50k, factory build to rolling chassis = 90k).

[zipppy]

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ewwww.. thats like what a 5.8 0-60? im not a huge fan of that. too damn slow. im looking at the m3, lotus elise, and subaru wrx sti. sti is cheapest, so may be very doable. who knows. z06 is a bit out of the range right now.. maybe in 6 months. holla

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Hell yes, Raptor...go for the elise. Do like a 40 in 40 challenge instead...the extra 3 weeks will be WELL worth it.

I personally have a BMW Z3. I got mine for 20k used, and it's unbelievable to drive, so I'm sure that the M3 would be an amazing choice as well.

My goals for the next 20 days? I'm going to try and make around $200. Seriously...I've been getting raped the last week or two.


>>>ZIPPPY

[Mr_J]

"I dont know what alot of companies will insure"

A smaller or high end company would be prepared to negotiate, and raptor has the cash.

Also, if raptor got a wrx there's no point insuring it. Insurance is a -EV bet, and only worthwhile if you can't afford the hit if your car gets totalled/stolen. raptor earns enough to get pissed off, but not enough for it to be a disaster. WRX is only a few weeks work??

"Get the M3. It's a BMW and chick magnet."

BMW = wankers car (sorry to anyone who owns one, but wankers usually drive them). M3 is a great car though.

[zipppy]

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Also, if raptor got a wrx there's no point insuring it. Insurance is a -EV bet, and only worthwhile if you can't afford the hit if your car gets totalled/stolen. raptor earns enough to get pissed off, but not enough for it to be a disaster. WRX is only a few weeks work??


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This is a joke, right?

[zipppy]

eccentricity at its best.

http://imgmoto.trojmiasto.pl/moto/tapety2/lotus/lotus_elise_02_800x600.jpg

[Mr_J]

No it's not. If you can recoup the losses reasonably quickly it's silly to have insurance. If raptor was going to buy a wrx then he should get 3rd party but not full comp.

[runner4life7]

I'm a diehard BMW fan so I support the M3, but I think id go for the elise just because you will get sooo many more looks, and I care about what people i dont know think.

[citanul]

he could be, uh, vaguely risk averse, which would, uh, make insurance quite worthwhile. that's, uh, why insurance exists. not, uh, because it's a good buy or anything. but, uh, because in general, people are pretty risk averse about large sums of money, even people who, uh, have lots of money.

but hey, that's just the economist in me talking.

citanul

[Irieguy]

Good luck, bro. I have one suggestion:

After you make your 20K, put it all on the Don't and double it up... then you can get an even nicer car.

Irieguy

[Mr_J]

"but hey, that's just the economist in me talking."

Lol you guys are missing my point. I agree it's about being risk averse. My point is that if you can comfortably afford to take the financial hit, then there's no point in getting full comp. I guess raptor probally would want to insure a WRX though (~25kUS??) since it probally does represent a good chunk of cash (take out living expenses, br etc and the hit would probally hurt quite a bit).

[zipppy]

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"but hey, that's just the economist in me talking."

Lol you guys are missing my point. I agree it's about being risk averse. My point is that if you can comfortably afford to take the financial hit, then there's no point in getting full comp. I guess raptor probally would want to insure a WRX though (~25kUS??) since it probally does represent a good chunk of cash (take out living expenses, br etc and the hit would probally hurt quite a bit).

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I believe it's also illegal to drive in many states w/o car insurance. And don't all the cars raptor's thinking of "represent a good chunk of cash" since they're all in the 20k+ range? (sort of the point of the challenge?)

[Mr_J]

""represent a good chunk of cash" since they're all in the 20k+ range?"

Which is why I said that at the end of my post /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

"I believe it's also illegal to drive in many states w/o car insurance"

Well it probally depends on the type of insurance. In australia we have 3 types for cars. The first 2 are 3rd party insurance (personal & property, personal is compluslory). The third type is full comprehensive which covers dmanage to your car, theft etc. This is the one I'd pass on if I'm willing to take a financial hit worth the value of the car.

Not sure how insurance works in the US but it's probally similiar?

[zipppy]

I see what you're saying now. I'm not sure that I would bypass full comp, but you're not as crazy as I first thought /images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

[Gramps]

I'll aid you quest by not playing any in July (excepting a night or two in a hotel room) - though there will be one less player to double up your short stack any two crap card pushes calling with any two crappy cards (pot odds, biatch).

[Deuce2High]

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Good luck, bro. I have one suggestion:

After you make your 20K, put it all on the Don't and double it up... then you can get an even nicer car.

Irieguy

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Raptor is pretty [censored] up right now but he says that sounds like a good strategy. Max odds for 80k. Ship it. Holla. <--- This is all direct quote lol.

[Mr_J]

This is what advantage play does to me though, I see everything according to expectation and risk management.

[microbet]

http://powersports.honda.com/assets/images/model/model_hero_shot/Motorcycles/2005/small/CBR1000RR.jpg

0-60 in 2.7 for about $11k.

[TheUsher]

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0-60 in 2.7 for about $11k.

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Crazy talk! I'm *this* close to getting something similar to this. Don't push me over the edge. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[microbet]

I don't want to encourage you to crash yourself or anything. I guess you just had a mishap in a car, which I'm sure wasn't your fault.

I rode motorcycles for 15 years and only stopped because I couldn't strap a baby seat onto one.

If you haven't ridden before I would suggest you work your way up from the $11s, er I mean 600s and not jump into a 1000. Maybe something like

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/SV650SK5.jpg

Suzuki SV650 which is a very good bike from what I hear. I had a similar Honda 650 Hawk, but they don't make that model anymore.

[TheUsher]

Yeah, if mishap you mean rear-ended by an idiot who tries to pick up her pager that dropped on the floor while trying to brake with a red light ahead, then sure yeah I had a mishap recently. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Honestly, I probably would have already bought myself a nice 600 but some family members are objecting pretty strongly.

[runner4life7]

All you need in the US is liability insurance incase you smash into someones porsche or something.

[DasLeben]

E39 M5, and it's not close. It's sexy, it's classy, and it does 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Just don't wrap it around a tree.

The Beast:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-1/922713/bmw_e39_m5-4.jpg

[GrekeHaus]

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eccentricity at its best.

http://imgmoto.trojmiasto.pl/moto/tapety2/lotus/lotus_elise_02_800x600.jpg

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My goal is to make enough in the next twenty days to buy a model of one of these. With rakeback, I'm confident I can do it.

[DasLeben]

By the way, if you're going to get something that's both fast in a straight line AND handles competently (M3, M5, Elise, etc.), you might consider some sort of performance driving school. Cars such as these can really get you in trouble if you're not familiar with their traits. If you're not careful, you could do something like lose the rear of an M3 or M5 in a corner, and really hurt yourself. I'm not one to really be giving advice in this matter (since I'm working on performance driving in a lesser vehicle at the moment), but I'd highly suggest starting out in a car that's not so capable first.

Also, a mid-engine RWD car such as the Elise can really ruin your day if you don't know what you're doing.

[Mr_J]

We're only allowed to ride 250cc for at least our first 9 months (for sportsbikes, it's actually up to 660cc as long as the power to weight ratio isn't high, and the power to weight limit is around what the top 250cc bikes are, you know cbr250rr, zx2r etc, top 250cc 2 stroke bikes are too powerful). While it might suck later on being stuck on a 250, it stops alot of people killing & shitting themselves on 600 or the 1000 supersports. Putting something as fast as a porsche twin turbo or viper in the hands of a beginner is silly...worse since the bike only has 2 wheels and no protection.

I like 600s, nice in the twisties. Any serious biker would take a nice set of curves anyday over a drag race. Doesn't mean the straights cant be fun /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Give me a zx6r for every day of the week.

[Bluff Daddy]

I would def. go with an infiniti g35 coupe

[octaveshift]

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m3, lotus elise, and subaru wrx sti.

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You've done your research. I was going to suggest the Elise. An absolutely INCREDIBLE performance car. Amazing to think you can give a Modena a headache for only $60k. (I've ridden in a new 360 Modena wuite a bit, and I will tell you this: it will make you dump in your pants.) The Lotus seems to be ideal for someone who wants supercar performance without the "I'm an [censored]" stigma associated with Ferrari. (Check out www.forcedfed.com (http://www.forcedfed.com) for a shop in CA that is doing some INSANE Elise mods. How about 0-60 in 4 seconds?) :O

Interestingly, I just told my wife last week my new goal with poker is to buy one (in cash) with my winnings. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I'm also a Subaru nut. I currently have a 2005 Legacy GT LTD, (like a grown up WRX) and it's sweet as hell. If you like to do mods, you really can't go wrong with a Subaru. Great community, and TONS of options. AWD 0wnZ.

I drove my friend's M3 last week, and it was a blast, but I think a Stage 2 WRX would probably give it a run for it's money. (Not sure though, will have to look at some tuner sites.)

In the end, I say get the Elise.

Then you and I can ride off into the sunset holding hands, because we will have become gay for each other.

I lERV YOu RAPTURD!

X0x0x0x0xX

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[Mr_J]

"You've done your research. I was going to suggest the Elise. An absolutely INCREDIBLE performance car. Amazing to think you can give a Modena a headache for only $60k. (I've ridden in a new 360 Modena wuite a bit, and I will tell you this: it will make you dump in your pants.) The Lotus seems to be ideal for someone who wants supercar performance without the "I'm an [censored]" stigma associated with Ferrari. (Check out www.forcedfed.com (http://www.forcedfed.com) for a shop in CA that is doing some INSANE Elise mods. How about 0-60 in 4 seconds?) :O"

Gotta do my bit for Ultima publicity. For the cost of modding that elise to a 4 sec 0-60, you could have a top of the line Ultima GTR that not even an enzo or macca F1 could hang with, not on the straights or the twisties.

[USCSigma1097]

HAHAHA

This is the funniest post I might have ever seen...

With rakeback...classic.

Sigma

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]

Gotta do my bit for Ultima publicity. For the cost of modding that elise to a 4 sec 0-60, you could have a top of the line Ultima GTR that not even an enzo or macca F1 could hang with, not on the straights or the twisties.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know much about kit cars, personally.

[Mr_J]

"I don't know much about kit cars, personally."

The quality of the parts is very high, these things are very serious performance machines. Holds world record in 0-60, 0-150-0, 1/4 mile and skidpad (when build to factory spec, factory built also = production car). You could get the factory to build it, but it'd set you back probally 120k+. Definately not for everyone, but great value for money.

[microbet]

I generally agree. I thought about the 600 advice before I went to sleep and I think a real beginner should start on like a 125 or 250 street bike.

The twisties are where the action is, but the newer 750s and 1000s are not very heavy and can handle the twisties almost as well, and when you pull out of a corner at 40mph it is pretty cool that you lift up your front wheel. Whatever it is, if it has 2 wheels it is fine by me though. I have more fun riding a 250 Honda Rebel or a beat up harley with only one cylinder firing than any BMW M3.

My parents were as against motorcycling as possible. I would have ridden no matter what, but I managed by age 19 to get them to the point where they wouldn't have heart attacks.

Despite the comments about the wheelies, I am/was a very conservative rider.

I sold my nicer bike and only have a very old Virago 750 which I never ride. If I had time to ride, I would get a Honda 919.

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
I would def. go with an infiniti g35 coupe

[/ QUOTE ]

no, its not even close. do you see why? holla

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

0-60 in 2.7 for about $11k.

[/ QUOTE ]

Crazy talk! I'm *this* close to getting something similar to this. Don't push me over the edge. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

dood u know u wanna do it. ill move to cali and we can roll around in our bikes. 11k. 2.7. SHIP THE DEATH BATCHES!!! holla

[raptor517]

oh, to everyone, i have a question about the reliability of the elise. tbh, i dont really know anything about it at all. i heard about it, read about it in a mag, and did a bit of research online, and i liked everything i saw. any thoughts?

also, the thing i like about it is NO ONE has one. thats def a plus. raptor likes to be different. holla

[microbet]

You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of these Lotuses (Lotusi?) in So. Cal.

Ok, well, not like that, but I have seen a few on the road, and there is a dealer in my area.

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of these Lotuses (Lotusi?) in So. Cal.

Ok, well, not like that, but I have seen a few on the road, and there is a dealer in my area.

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont think i have ever seen one on the road in the dfw area. ever. holla

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
oh, to everyone, i have a question about the reliability of the elise.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's a Lotus, not a Honda. You can expect all sorts of weird little things to happen, but Lotus has been very good about taking care of their Elise customers. (Check out http://www.elisetalk.com for some enthusiast opinions and stories.)

It's not practical, by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it's probably NOT a good idea for anyone who wants a car for anything other than sport driving. It's teeeeny tiny, has a horribly stiff ride, has essentially no interior, and no trunk space. I doubt you could even get groceries in it.

The price/performance ratio is extreme, and they are beautiful to look at. Expect a ton of attention from police and pedestrians. (Especially when they see the pacifier dangling from your mouth.)

Really, I think the STI would be a hell of a lot more practical for you, and a lot more fun if you'd like to mod it. (Judging from your screennames, I'd be willing to guess you'd enjoy ricing it out. /images/graemlins/wink.gif )

And frankly, it's more forgiving than the M3 or Elise for inexperienced drivers. Subaru AWD is teh hotness.

Have you considered a Volkswagen R32?

[Jay36489]

Since I just quit my job (absolutely ridiculous sales job at a failing comapny where I was raking in maybe $9/hr), My goal this month is 2K to pay the bills and put food on the table. uhhh... ship it?

[raptor517]

whats an r32? isnt it like an awd faster GTI? holla

[DasLeben]

[ QUOTE ]
And frankly, it's more forgiving than the M3 or Elise for inexperienced drivers.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you. I've been the only one to point this out so far, and it seems to have been ignored.

If you get an M3 or Elise, at least have a general idea of what you're doing first. I don't want to hear about you wrapping it around something.

[John Hurst]

This is what I have - 2001 Jaguar XK8. I like it. I like it alot.

http://www.texascarsdirect.com/Content/InvPics/1334A.jpg

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And frankly, it's more forgiving than the M3 or Elise for inexperienced drivers.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you. I've been the only one to point this out so far, and it seems to have been ignored.

If you get an M3 or Elise, at least have a general idea of what you're doing first. I don't want to hear about you wrapping it around something.

[/ QUOTE ]

im sure id be good at that too, its just another way to get sucked out on. ive wanted a wrx since i was like 15, so i may spring for the sti. holla

[citanul]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And frankly, it's more forgiving than the M3 or Elise for inexperienced drivers.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thank you. I've been the only one to point this out so far, and it seems to have been ignored.

If you get an M3 or Elise, at least have a general idea of what you're doing first. I don't want to hear about you wrapping it around something.

[/ QUOTE ]

im sure id be good at that too, its just another way to get sucked out on. ive wanted a wrx since i was like 15, so i may spring for the sti. holla

[/ QUOTE ]

if there's something you've wanted for all of 2 weeks, er, 4 years, you probably have done enough research to know that you really want it. you may want to *consider* getting one a year or two old?

citanul

ps: the car i usually drive does not currently function =(

[Iamafish]

Do not even consider getting that sh*t VW r32. What a rip off the skyline, VW should be ashamed.

Anyway, I just saw a lotus last night, and an older one this morning. They're nice cars, and good on gas too.

I don't think you'll want a 7.0 liter as your daily driver, so I wouldn't consider a Z06, american cars are trash anyway.

If you're thinking about the wrx, EVERYONE has that car. Look into the EVO. The wrx transmition can't even handle like above 300hp. There slower than your G35 too.

Ive ridden in an 800 hp supra, but as time goes by, I lose interest. But 800 hp is badass.

[microbet]

I haven't seen your answer to any of the "how old are you" questions, but pot, kettle, black?

[augie00]

[ QUOTE ]
yea, def talking about non poker leaks. like what cit said. i like lighting bongs with flaming hundos. holla

[/ QUOTE ]

My god. If you ever plan on playing any major poker tournament ever, at the same time as me, and don't plan on hanging out with me, you are wrong, very wrong. Very, very wrong.

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
Do not even consider getting that sh*t VW r32. What a rip off the skyline, VW should be ashamed.

Anyway, I just saw a lotus last night, and an older one this morning. They're nice cars, and good on gas too.

I don't think you'll want a 7.0 liter as your daily driver, so I wouldn't consider a Z06, american cars are trash anyway.

If you're thinking about the wrx, EVERYONE has that car. Look into the EVO. The wrx transmition can't even handle like above 300hp. There slower than your G35 too.

Ive ridden in an 800 hp supra, but as time goes by, I lose interest. But 800 hp is badass.

[/ QUOTE ]

sti is 4.8 0-60 is it not? evo is about the same no? i do like the evo, but wanted an sti forever. holla

[HighestCard]

[ QUOTE ]
It's not practical, by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it's probably NOT a good idea for anyone who wants a car for anything other than sport driving. It's teeeeny tiny, has a horribly stiff ride, has essentially no interior, and no trunk space. I doubt you could even get groceries in it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I completly agree with this, and I dont like the elise because im 6 foot 5, and feel like a sardine in them. The STI has plenty of room and performance all rolled into one.

[microbet]

My dad had a 2002 Vette and now has some fancy Cadillac and they are not trash.

[DasLeben]

[ QUOTE ]
Do not even consider getting that sh*t VW r32. What a rip off the skyline, VW should be ashamed.

[/ QUOTE ]

The R32 is AWD, and uhh...well, that's the only thing I could think of that makes the R32 anything like the Skyline (also, not all Skylines are AWD). Granted, there was an older Skyline called the R32, but you're going to have to reach for that one. Also, the VW R32 is based on the VW Mk IV GTI, and not anything else.

[ QUOTE ]
Anyway, I just saw a lotus last night, and an older one this morning. They're nice cars, and good on gas too.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true. The new Elise has a 190hp Toyota Celica GTS engine in it. It's good on gas, and reliable.

[ QUOTE ]
I don't think you'll want a 7.0 liter as your daily driver, so I wouldn't consider a Z06, american cars are trash anyway.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree that there are a lot of trashy American cars, but to say that they're all trash is just ignorant. Case in point: Corvette (C5 and C6), Cadillac CTS-V, new Mustang GT (Ford actually did something right).

[ QUOTE ]
If you're thinking about the wrx, EVERYONE has that car. Look into the EVO. The wrx transmition can't even handle like above 300hp. There slower than your G35 too.

[/ QUOTE ]

I can't believe that you said all American cars are trash, but didn't put the base WRX in there. That is truly a piece of [censored], and I know from personal experience. The Evo VIII is hot as hell though. Definitely something to look into.

[zipppy]

[ QUOTE ]

ive wanted a wrx since i was like 15, so i may spring for the sti. holla

[/ QUOTE ]

so, what...since last year? hollllaaa

[zipppy]

my advice, too, raptor is to get something that isn't simply great for acceleration. Get something that handles well...this is truly +ev long term.

[HighestCard]

[ QUOTE ]
my advice, too, raptor is to get something that isn't simply great for acceleration. Get something that handles well...this is truly +ev long term.


[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah...maybe something like an old mini...you would beat everybody off the line, be able to park wherever you wanted, and have the smallest turning radius of all... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
my advice, too, raptor is to get something that isn't simply great for acceleration. Get something that handles well...this is truly +ev long term.

[/ QUOTE ]

sti, evo, lotus, and m3 all handle quite well no? im looking more at the evo now too.. a bit pricier than the sti though with all the stuff i want in it.. oh well, whats a couple k? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[zipppy]

[ QUOTE ]

sti, evo, lotus, and m3 all handle quite well no? im looking more at the evo now too.. a bit pricier than the sti though with all the stuff i want in it.. oh well, whats a couple k? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, those would probably all be great choices. I'm jealous. If you get the elise, I will be your lover...don't let that discourage you.

[DasLeben]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
my advice, too, raptor is to get something that isn't simply great for acceleration. Get something that handles well...this is truly +ev long term.

[/ QUOTE ]

sti, evo, lotus, and m3 all handle quite well no? im looking more at the evo now too.. a bit pricier than the sti though with all the stuff i want in it.. oh well, whats a couple k? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[/ QUOTE ]

All of those handle tremendously. But once again, be [censored] careful.

[citanul]

i'm 23 with basically no responsibilities. probably have more money on hand right now than raptor, but less drive to make money in big piles very fast than he has. i've been thinking about changing that. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

as for what i should get myself or whatever, eh, i have big problems spending money. i'm working on that too.

citanul

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

sti, evo, lotus, and m3 all handle quite well no? im looking more at the evo now too.. a bit pricier than the sti though with all the stuff i want in it.. oh well, whats a couple k? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, those would probably all be great choices. I'm jealous. If you get the elise, I will be your lover...don't let that discourage you.

[/ QUOTE ]

if anything, it ENcourages me. holla

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
my advice, too, raptor is to get something that isn't simply great for acceleration. Get something that handles well...this is truly +ev long term.

[/ QUOTE ]

sti, evo, lotus, and m3 all handle quite well no? im looking more at the evo now too.. a bit pricier than the sti though with all the stuff i want in it.. oh well, whats a couple k? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[/ QUOTE ]

All of those handle tremendously. But once again, be [censored] careful.

[/ QUOTE ]

whats careful mean again? holla

[citanul]

[ QUOTE ]
whats careful mean again? holla

[/ QUOTE ]

he means don't die, fuckwit.

citanul

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
whats careful mean again? holla

[/ QUOTE ]

he means don't die, fuckwit.

citanul

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/frown.gif <-- this is what u do to me you mean prick. holla

[Iamafish]

19 year old poker player dies in lotus

[skipperbob]

[ QUOTE ]
19 year old "blackjack" player dies in lotus

[/ QUOTE ]

[GrekeHaus]

[ QUOTE ]
as for what i should get myself or whatever, eh, i have big problems spending money. i'm working on that too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Invest heavily in porn. It always has good resale value as long as it doesn't get too sticky.

[USCSigma1097]

Yes...

this is good advice from a better man. If you're going to piss it away, buy the gift that keeps giving...porn.

Sigma

[GrekeHaus]

That was my second porn-related post of the day. There was another one about spooning with Yugo.

What all this is telling me is that I really need to get laid (not by Yugo). Therefore, I'll make it my goal to win $100 this month so I can buy a fat hooker...either that, or 10 really fat hookers. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[skipperbob]

[ QUOTE ]
What all this is telling me is that I really need to get laid (not by Yugo). Therefore, I'll make it my goal to win $100 this month so I can buy a fat hooker...either that, or 10 really fat hookers

[/ QUOTE ]

This is terribly sad & just plain wrong /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[zipppy]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
19 year old "pai gow" player dies in lotus

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

[citanul]

haha. if you haven't seen Avenue Q yet, do so soon /images/graemlins/smile.gif it will be going to the Wynn in September i think if you want to wait.

citanul

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
Do not even consider getting that sh*t VW r32. What a rip off the skyline, VW should be ashamed.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not going to get into a fight over cars in the SNG forum, but I think Raptor should do his own due diligence.

I'm not a VW fan, personally. There are a lot of R32 fans out there, however, so they are probably worth a look if you are considering a AWD performance-centric car.

240hp naturally aspirated 6-cylinder with Brembos and great seats? Certainly worth a look.

[USCSigma1097]

Raptor,

If you want to pull the ladies, get away from all this sports car BS and buy a real man's vehicle...

A TRUCK.

Like a GMC Sierra HD2500 with all the fixin's. You're going home for less than 45k, and NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift. At least, that's the case here in SC.

Sigma

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift.

[/ QUOTE ]

Psssst. That look? It's because we're all snickering.

/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DasLeben]

[ QUOTE ]
Raptor,

If you want to pull the ladies, get away from all this sports car BS and buy a real man's vehicle...

A TRUCK.

Like a GMC Sierra HD2500 with all the fixin's. You're going home for less than 45k, and NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift. At least, that's the case here in SC.

Sigma

[/ QUOTE ]

If he's going to spend $45k, then he should get something quality. A GMC Sierra is lacking in that department.

[USCSigma1097]

BOY,

You talking about my Sierra..

<spits tobacco juice>

Now you've done it.

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
Raptor,

If you want to pull the ladies, get away from all this sports car BS and buy a real man's vehicle...

A TRUCK.

Like a GMC Sierra HD2500 with all the fixin's. You're going home for less than 45k, and NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift. At least, that's the case here in SC.

Sigma

[/ QUOTE ]

yea im pretty sure im not doing that. im not too country.. i like things that go fast. holla

[pergesu]

I got a 94 Toyota pickup I'll sell you for 20k. I'll even throw in a 92 Park Avenue.

[USCSigma1097]

Raptor,

Since you are still a young pup...And not a grizzled 25 year old like me...I'll let you in on a little secret that all us old guys know.

It's not how fast your car is...It's how fast the girl is riding in it

Holla
Sigma

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
Raptor,

Since you are still a young pup...And not a grizzled 25 year old like me...I'll let you in on a little secret that all us old guys know.

It's not how fast your car is...It's how fast the girl is riding in it

Holla
Sigma

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont mind if shes a little slow, im young, goes quick anyway. holla

[DasLeben]

[ QUOTE ]
I got a 94 Toyota pickup I'll sell you for 20k. I'll even throw in a 92 Park Avenue.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll give you $1,500 for the pickup and $300 to take the Park Avenue off your hands. It's a solid deal. You won't get that anywhere else.

Tell you what...if I can get the monthly payments on your new G35 where you want them, will you drive off with it right now? Great. Now initial here.

Bwahahaha.

[teamdonkey]

[ QUOTE ]
thats the goal. 20k, 20 days. that should cover the down payment at least.

[/ QUOTE ]

i'm curious, how will you pay for the rest of it? I'd think it would be hard for a 19 year old poker player to get a sizable loan. Unless there was some kind of restriction on pai-gow written into it.

[ZeeJustin]

GL

[raptor517]

when you slap 20k cash into their hands for a 30-35k car, i think the rest works itself. holla

[citanul]

something tells me they're more likely to do somethign like oh, call the homeland security /images/graemlins/smile.gif

citanul

[d1sterbd]

[ QUOTE ]
Raptor,

If you want to pull the ladies, get away from all this sports car BS and buy a real man's vehicle...

A TRUCK.

Like a GMC Sierra HD2500 with all the fixin's. You're going home for less than 45k, and NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift. At least, that's the case here in SC.

Sigma

[/ QUOTE ]


You don't have to spend 45k to pick up the kind of girls you are talking about

[Phill S]

Btw, have you considered the Noble M12 (http://www.topgear.com/drives/EQ/A0/) raptor?

Think of it as a ready made kit car, that is hot as fook looking and is reported to be the best handling car on the roads today.

£48K is a little more than you expected, but for an everyday supercar...

-----

Alternately was the 350Z suggested? The new convertable is a cool car to pick up the bitches.

£30K over here for the top of the range model, im sure its less over there cos we get screwed over constantly.

-----

This is my favourite car of all time:
http://next.web-cars.com/wallpaper_img/e-type_1280.jpg

Ok, i know you dont like it cos its twice as old as you (hell, twice as old as me) its unreliable and it doesnt have beatch appeal, but its my dream car /images/graemlins/grin.gif

-----

How is the challenge going so far?

[djj6835]

[ QUOTE ]
I believe it's also illegal to drive in many states w/o car insurance

[/ QUOTE ]
It's illegal to drive without the ability to compensate someone for any damage you may cause. So Bill Gates doesn't need to purchase any car insurance and can drive legally without it, however your typical person would be breaking the law by driving without insurance.

[sng-sam]

the question no one has asked you Raptor?.......How's it going on the challenge? How bout some numbers. GL btw.

SAM

[wulfheir]

[ QUOTE ]
the question no one has asked you Raptor?.......How's it going on the challenge? How bout some numbers. GL btw.

SAM

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah really, I want an update.

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
the question no one has asked you Raptor?.......How's it going on the challenge? How bout some numbers. GL btw.

SAM

[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah really, I want an update.

[/ QUOTE ]

He probably only has like 26k to go by now.

Holla!

Yugoslav

[ryanvick]

yeah rapt... updates... and for real, you should get a range rov.. that's why im getting, but it'll take me about 3-4 months, esp w/ my spending habits.. maybe extra month to get the supercharged with rims

[SuitedSixes]

What's the deal, Playa? You need me to SHIP you a bus pass for August?

[skipperbob]

/images/graemlins/frown.gif[ QUOTE ]
What's the deal, Playa? You need me to SHIP you a bus pass for August

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/frown.gif

/images/graemlins/tongue.gifLack of updates can only mean one thing /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Someone's "alligator mouth" got in the way of his "hummingbirdass" /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[johnnybeef]

[ QUOTE ]
/images/graemlins/frown.gif[ QUOTE ]
What's the deal, Playa? You need me to SHIP you a bus pass for August

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/frown.gif

/images/graemlins/tongue.gifLack of updates can only mean one thing /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Someone's "alligator mouth" got in the way of his "hummingbirdass" /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Dammit, I was expecting some content in lieu of your recent posts..... /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[lacky]

I told raptor to take the month off, he listened, who knew?

Steve

[iMsoLucky0]

[ QUOTE ]
/images/graemlins/frown.gif[ QUOTE ]
What's the deal, Playa? You need me to SHIP you a bus pass for August

[/ QUOTE ] /images/graemlins/frown.gif

/images/graemlins/tongue.gifLack of updates can only mean one thing /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Someone's "alligator mouth" got in the way of his "hummingbirdass" /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

YES!

I'm glad others are starting to realize the walking folly that is Raptor.

They should put his picture up next to the definiton of folly.

FOLLY: A lack of good sense, understanding, or foresight. (see: Raptor)

[skipperbob]

I tend to buy this story; usually when I get up (4:00AM-PDT) I play 3 or 4 $215's w/ Raptor....Haven't seen him for awhile /images/graemlins/frown.gif...Too Bad 2; he's good for the game /images/graemlins/blush.gif

PS: Haven't seen Gig for awhile either /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[SuitedSixes]

FWIW, Raptor is alot of things, but he has always "kept it real" in regards to his ability, and what he thinks is obtainable. Something that I find refreshing around these parts. I don't bring this back up because I want to rub his nose in failure, I bring it up because I want to know what kind of car he's getting.

I'll bet he's just waiting for rakeback, although he is 32 and 36 on the current leaderboard, so if he doesn't kick it in gear over the next few days he won't make his other goal for the month.

[CCx]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
NOTHING gets more looks than a truck with a 12 inch lift.

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Psssst. That look? It's because we're all snickering.

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LOL, as someone from Philly who lived in SC for a year and a half, I find this equal parts hilarious and true.... nh /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[raptor517]

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FWIW, Raptor is alot of things, but he has always "kept it real" in regards to his ability, and what he thinks is obtainable. Something that I find refreshing around these parts. I don't bring this back up because I want to rub his nose in failure, I bring it up because I want to know what kind of car he's getting.

I'll bet he's just waiting for rakeback, although he is 32 and 36 on the current leaderboard, so if he doesn't kick it in gear over the next few days he won't make his other goal for the month.

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well, there is good reason for being 36/32 on the board. during the first week or so i was right up there and was gonna have a neat lil competition with fiery justice for the top spots.. however.. it seems as though im not good enough at sngs to play 215s for greater than 10%, meaning that i will go through 5k downswings like 3 times a week. i didnt exactly like this.

as such, i did a lot of talking with my poker buds, lotta people on this forum that i have met and hung out with in RL and such, and have decided to take a lil break. my mind is simply not right. i have it in my mind that im not winning, and its causing problems with my play.. at least i think it is.. my results have been less than stellar as of late.. and yea variance blah blah but something must be off..

anyways, ive been reviewing hand histories, hangin out with the girlie, and just takin it easy in general. im on day 9 of clean and sober from sngs.. and i have no super strong desire to jump back in. im training a couple people in the 10+1s, and working with another person in 2k NL game.. yea kinda odd jump in levels.. but whatever..

anyways, i DID NOT achieve my goal for the new car.. i suppose that will have to wait. i got off on the wrong foot in the first 2 days swinging down 6k.. so i was kinda pissed about that. anyways over the next few days i got it back to +500ish, then kept hittin it and dropped 4k again. over the next couple days i was up and down at one point UP 6k, then back down to +1500. at that point, i just said **** it cuz i was really feelin crummy..

anyways, i still dont have the mental capacity to handle the variance of a low roi high buyin game.. even with mad multitabling. when i was 12 tabling the 55s, i couldnt have been happier.. cruisin just under 20%, havin few downswings, and just constantly banking solid wins. i guess cockiness and pride got the best of me when i saw the ZJ post, so i said wtf, why couldnt i do that. anyways.. it didnt work out. i figured i could just make myself play 100 sngs a day and be fine emotionally cuz i would be playing enough volume that even if i had a 10k swing i should be able to outswing it in a matter of a few days. meh.. sometimes things dont go the way you think they will, or even the way statistics say they will..

ANYWAYS.. i think i may just 12 table 55s or 109s when i get back, as i dont need a huge influx of money anymore. im going back to school and all that.. (took last semester off to get rich on poker..) so ill be cuttin down in hours at least a little bit.. prolly gonna go down to 800 or so sngs a month when school comes back.. maybe 1k, who knows. anyways, im trying to be a normal person again, instead of sitting in front of my comp loading up table after table for 12 hours straight 7 days a week.

what ive decided.. is goals ****ing suck /images/graemlins/grin.gif. you get let down sometimes, and that sucks. and if you reach yer goal, you were expecting it to happen anyways. MAYBE when i come back, ill have a 200 in 24 hour challenge or something like that.. who knows. but for now.. im being a 19 year old. holla

[raptor517]

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I told raptor to take the month off, he listened, who knew?

Steve

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meh, the old man could have been right for once.. who knew? /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[skipperbob]

Your Honesty & Humility is refreshing...G/L...Look forward to the pleasure of your company at *STTF-HUC*

Skip
Who only kids around; maybe too much sometimes /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[SlackerMcFly]

What Skipper said.

You have a terrific future Raptor. Personally, I'm happy to hear a bit of maturity and reality in your words. Might be one of the better things to happen for you at this stage.

Best wishes and good luck. Oh to be 19 again......

Slacker

[fnord_too]

Good call to step away and not let an arbitrary goal grind you up and spit you out. You are way ahead of the game. Holla!
<font color="white"> OK, so it's painfully obvious how unhip I am. </font>

[Mr_J]

"what ive decided.. is goals ****ing suck "

Yeh, goals just aren't me. I'm just going to play 30-40 $55s (or maybe 109s if I work on my game enough) a day. It's around 10k a month, but give or take a bit I couldn't care less. I just want a nice chunk of change by the end of this year which I'm pretty much assured of if I play. That's my only goal.

[SuitedSixes]

Thanks, for the update, David, and for telling it like it is. I still think that you have the best idea of what is reasonable to expect out of these things out of anybody. Don't give up on SNGs totally this month, both of your accounts are still higher than Skip's, so that counts for something.

Do you need that bus pass? I'm also glad to see that you will be fresh for the STTF-HUCOTFW.

[Iamafish]

Great...more people playing the 55's, wtf?

[FieryJustice]

I hit my 20k today if you count rakeback....if you dont, I have $3000 more to go. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Iamafish]

?

[astarck]

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I hit my 20k today if you count rakeback....if you dont, I have $3000 more to go. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I would imagine he meant 20k in 20 days.

[astarck]

Hey fiery, how many SNGs have you played this month on Empire in order to accumulate that many points?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it is a monthly record.

EDIT - Or it will be if you continue at this pace.

[Degen]

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FWIW, Raptor is alot of things, but he has always "kept it real" in regards to his ability, and what he thinks is obtainable. Something that I find refreshing around these parts. I don't bring this back up because I want to rub his nose in failure, I bring it up because I want to know what kind of car he's getting.

I'll bet he's just waiting for rakeback, although he is 32 and 36 on the current leaderboard, so if he doesn't kick it in gear over the next few days he won't make his other goal for the month.

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well, there is good reason for being 36/32 on the board. during the first week or so i was right up there and was gonna have a neat lil competition with fiery justice for the top spots.. however.. it seems as though im not good enough at sngs to play 215s for greater than 10%, meaning that i will go through 5k downswings like 3 times a week. i didnt exactly like this.

as such, i did a lot of talking with my poker buds, lotta people on this forum that i have met and hung out with in RL and such, and have decided to take a lil break. my mind is simply not right. i have it in my mind that im not winning, and its causing problems with my play.. at least i think it is.. my results have been less than stellar as of late.. and yea variance blah blah but something must be off..

anyways, ive been reviewing hand histories, hangin out with the girlie, and just takin it easy in general. im on day 9 of clean and sober from sngs.. and i have no super strong desire to jump back in. im training a couple people in the 10+1s, and working with another person in 2k NL game.. yea kinda odd jump in levels.. but whatever..

anyways, i DID NOT achieve my goal for the new car.. i suppose that will have to wait. i got off on the wrong foot in the first 2 days swinging down 6k.. so i was kinda pissed about that. anyways over the next few days i got it back to +500ish, then kept hittin it and dropped 4k again. over the next couple days i was up and down at one point UP 6k, then back down to +1500. at that point, i just said **** it cuz i was really feelin crummy..

anyways, i still dont have the mental capacity to handle the variance of a low roi high buyin game.. even with mad multitabling. when i was 12 tabling the 55s, i couldnt have been happier.. cruisin just under 20%, havin few downswings, and just constantly banking solid wins. i guess cockiness and pride got the best of me when i saw the ZJ post, so i said wtf, why couldnt i do that. anyways.. it didnt work out. i figured i could just make myself play 100 sngs a day and be fine emotionally cuz i would be playing enough volume that even if i had a 10k swing i should be able to outswing it in a matter of a few days. meh.. sometimes things dont go the way you think they will, or even the way statistics say they will..

ANYWAYS.. i think i may just 12 table 55s or 109s when i get back, as i dont need a huge influx of money anymore. im going back to school and all that.. (took last semester off to get rich on poker..) so ill be cuttin down in hours at least a little bit.. prolly gonna go down to 800 or so sngs a month when school comes back.. maybe 1k, who knows. anyways, im trying to be a normal person again, instead of sitting in front of my comp loading up table after table for 12 hours straight 7 days a week.

what ive decided.. is goals ****ing suck /images/graemlins/grin.gif. you get let down sometimes, and that sucks. and if you reach yer goal, you were expecting it to happen anyways. MAYBE when i come back, ill have a 200 in 24 hour challenge or something like that.. who knows. but for now.. im being a 19 year old. holla

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wow david, i'm very impressed

to tell you the truth before this post i saw you as a funny, cocky but pretty immature kid....i was obviously very wrong on this last part, and on the cocky part as well.

takes an adult to admit something like this, and a real man to tell us all about it like that, given your stature around here.

i'm sooper glad to hear you'll be going back to school and that you realize there is much to life besides 12-tabling sit-n-go's.

[The Yugoslavian]

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wow david, i'm very impressed

to tell you the truth before this post i saw you as a funny, cocky but pretty immature kid....i was obviously very wrong on this last part, and on the cocky part as well.

takes an adult to admit something like this, and a real man to tell us all about it like that, given your stature around here.

i'm sooper glad to hear you'll be going back to school and that you realize there is much to life besides 12-tabling sit-n-go's.

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He's mature in some ways and immature in others (more mature than immature though /images/graemlins/shocked.gif).

There is no denying his magnetic personality and propensity to text message while in scrippa clubs.

Yugoslav

[FieryJustice]

I "think" I have only played about 1000 on FieryJustice...I still have to grind it out for a few more days if I want to be #1 and #2...Tepop is trying to outplay me, i think. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[raptor517]

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I hit my 20k today if you count rakeback....if you dont, I have $3000 more to go. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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grats on that.. go buy a new car /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla