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smokylosecannon

07-08-2005, 03:45 AM

Hi, how do you guys play this hand? Any input is appriciated. Thanks

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, 7 folds, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero?

Dave G.

07-08-2005, 03:49 AM

Cap the flop. Cap the turn. And I'd probably cap a safe river too (non-ace, non-T).

UTGs preflop 3-bet is probably NOT TT, which is the only hand you are afraid of on the turn. It's more likely that he has JJ, QQ or AA (and possibly AK, but that's less likely). If he does, you've just hit the jackpot.

Bodhi

07-08-2005, 03:53 AM

For god's sake, bet the flop! Wouldn't you hate to see it get checked through? Ok, at least check-raise. You're heads-up and you have to try to extract as much value as possible from only one opponent.

On the turn I cap it. I don't know what UTG+1 has, but it's not AT, and if he has TT that's tough. Cap it.

smokylosecannon

07-08-2005, 04:06 AM

Well, Given the pre-flop action, I put him AK, AA, QQ, JJ. I was hoping villian has QQ or JJ. I should check-raise on flop to find out more information and possibly make him fold. Anyway, here is the rest of hand.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, 7 folds, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.75 BB

Of course villian wins with TT.

macdaddy991

07-08-2005, 04:09 AM

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Of course villian wins with TT.

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Results for this hand are meaningless, look at your thought processes and play.

Dave G.

07-08-2005, 04:12 AM

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I should check-raise on flop to find out more information

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This is going to yield you a bountiful harvest of nothing. If you bet the flop, as you should have, he is not going to raise you here. That gives you much more useful information. When he starts raising the turn, now you can include hands that have Ts in them as part of his range of holdings.

(Of course, you should still 3-bet this turn, but when he caps, you know that you might be beaten, and you can call the river if you don't boat up).

Bodhi

07-08-2005, 04:22 AM

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If you bet the flop, as you should have, he is not going to raise you here. That gives you much more useful information.

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aK13

07-08-2005, 04:22 AM

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I should check-raise on flop to find out more information and possibly make him fold.

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1. Betting/raising for information is 99% of the time a useless idea. No typical 3betting hand is folding on the flop.

2. Since you decided to slowplay the flop, you spewed on the turn and river.