EStreet20
07-07-2005, 09:42 PM
Wow, I just saw the biggest lag I can even imagine at party 3-6. Blew through 500 bucks real quick. VPIP 91, PFR 40 something. I ISO raised this guy with all kinds of crap I'd never ever raise with. My numbers from this table say it all:
202 hands,
VPIP 27.23
BB/100 27.68
Now so this isn't just a brag post /images/graemlins/grin.gif I'm curios, how much will you loosen up to get a piece of a lag like this. His first two hands against me he luckboxed and hit a gut shot and a river two pair that he pumped. Then I saw him pump and showdown hands like 64o etc At this point I rebought and attacked him like crazy. Here are some of the more interesting hands that I obviously would never play like this if not for the circumstances (other than the first, which I included to show how crazy this dude is:
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
Flop: (9 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
Turn: (9 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
River: (12 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button folds.
Final Pot: 14 BB
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.
Flop: (10.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (11.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
River: (19.16 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 23.16 BB
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (10 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
Turn: (9 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
River: (17 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 19 BB
These hands were all good and there are some nuttier ones I don't feel like digging up. I basically would raise first in (he was two places to my left) with any A, nearly any K some suited Q's etc.) after that the rest of the table followed suit so I got a little more selective, but I also had to call a few more raiseds onnce other tried to iso as well. Just curious as to how much you guys loosen up your starting hand requirements against someone like this.
Good luck,
Matt
202 hands,
VPIP 27.23
BB/100 27.68
Now so this isn't just a brag post /images/graemlins/grin.gif I'm curios, how much will you loosen up to get a piece of a lag like this. His first two hands against me he luckboxed and hit a gut shot and a river two pair that he pumped. Then I saw him pump and showdown hands like 64o etc At this point I rebought and attacked him like crazy. Here are some of the more interesting hands that I obviously would never play like this if not for the circumstances (other than the first, which I included to show how crazy this dude is:
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
Flop: (9 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
Turn: (9 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button calls.
River: (12 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, Button folds.
Final Pot: 14 BB
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.
Flop: (10.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (11.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
River: (19.16 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 23.16 BB
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (10 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
Turn: (9 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, Hero calls.
River: (17 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 19 BB
These hands were all good and there are some nuttier ones I don't feel like digging up. I basically would raise first in (he was two places to my left) with any A, nearly any K some suited Q's etc.) after that the rest of the table followed suit so I got a little more selective, but I also had to call a few more raiseds onnce other tried to iso as well. Just curious as to how much you guys loosen up your starting hand requirements against someone like this.
Good luck,
Matt