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marken
07-07-2005, 05:12 PM
no reads.

Is the fold on the turn ok?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB
shant
07-07-2005, 05:17 PM
Cap preflop.
AceCraig
07-07-2005, 05:22 PM
why are you raising the flop? I would just call w/ overcards (no backdoor flush possible) getting 8.5 to 1 odds to call profitably w/ over cards (needs 7 to 1 odds).

I think 3 betting is wasting a bet because he already 3 bet PF. Unless you think you can get him to fold AK or AQ.
AceCraig
07-07-2005, 05:23 PM
Yeah, what he said, cap preflop, then if he bets you know your probably behind. If he ckecks then maybe you can push him off his hand if he missed the flop.
marken
07-07-2005, 05:26 PM
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why are you raising the flop? I would just call w/ overcards (no backdoor flush possible) getting 8.5 to 1 odds to call profitably w/ over cards (needs 7 to 1 odds).

I think 3 betting is wasting a bet because he already 3 bet PF. Unless you think you can get him to fold AK or AQ.

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The tought with raising the flop was part for value and part for maybe a freecard on the turn. (But if checked to me, i probably have the best hand so i guess a bet should be in order then i guess). Guess i wanted to define my hand, but maybe it's not worth a SB.

The thing about 3-betting you said i don't follow.
slavic
07-07-2005, 05:27 PM
Hmm that no reads part makes this fairly tough.

Notice that you have 6 to 3 outs so let's just say 4.5 so a fold is reasonable. If he/she will do this with medium pairs however you have a pure call. This is also why I'm not so enamored with the raise for a free card play. Here you have a situation were the free card play failed but makes it marginally correct for you to call on the turn.
marken
07-07-2005, 05:28 PM
good advice about the preflop cap. thanks shant and AceCraig!
bobbyi
07-07-2005, 06:16 PM
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Cap preflop.

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yuck
marken
07-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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Cap preflop.

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yuck

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why do you say yuck?
shant
07-07-2005, 07:26 PM
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Cap preflop.

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yuck

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What's wrong with capping preflop with AKo in position?
Joe Tall
07-07-2005, 07:36 PM
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What's wrong with capping preflop with AKo in position?

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Nothing.