*OFFICIAL* New* Dear Talk2BigSteve...Gay Advice for ALL of OOT! [Archive]

cnfuzzd

07-07-2005, 05:10 AM

Dear BigSteve,

Why is it the last few times ive gone into gay bars, ive been hit on by more women than men? Granted, these bars were become more and more mainstream as the truly Queer atmosphere moved to bars even more underground, but still it seemed odd. I mean, im assuming that just based on numbers alone, i should be hit on by way more guys, especially since the women there seemed to find me at least somewhat suitable. Do you think this could have anything to do with men having a higher tolerance for alcohol? Thanks.

peace

john nickle

Willluck

07-07-2005, 05:18 AM

Why are people bastards? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2797684&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1&vc=1)

augie00

07-07-2005, 11:20 AM

Dear Steve,

I want go to clothes shopping before school starts. Where should I shop if I want to get some fashionable clothes without crossing the border into metrosexuality?

MoreWineII

07-07-2005, 11:23 AM

Dear Steve,

Do fat gay guys have tighter pooper-holes?

Thanks in advance,

MW2

Macdaddy Warsaw

07-07-2005, 11:28 AM

I like to think I'm metrosexual, but I'm probably not even close to it. I just give a crap about what I look like.

That said, I would check out a store like Urban Outfitters. I think Ralph Lauren/Polo also makes some not so gay stuff. I think staying away from Italian designers and lines like Guess? would be the way to go. I bought some Guess button downs and I think they're super metro, but I like it that way.

Anyway, just stay away from frilly/pink [censored] and I think you'll be ok in not being too metro.

EDIT: The more I think about it, Urban Outfitters and the like would be perfect for what you want. Yeah. I just went there for the first time this past weekend and I think it's what you're looking for.

chaas4747

07-07-2005, 11:41 AM

Why are you replying to a "Ask Steve" thread. Is M-daddy Warsaw Gay?

Macdaddy Warsaw

07-07-2005, 11:45 AM

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Why are you replying to a "Ask Steve" thread. Is M-daddy Warsaw Gay?

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In your dreams, lover.

Luv2DriveTT

07-07-2005, 04:40 PM

Dude..

If you think Urban Outfiters & the Gap are Metro, then you have no idea what the word means /images/graemlins/smile.gif

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif - styling in an Etro Suit, Thomas Pink shirt and Paul Smith boots. And happly hetro none the less.

on_thg

07-07-2005, 04:51 PM

Dear Big Steve:

I'm thinking about moving to the rural South. Where are the best places to meet loose hot women, considering (1) family reunions are out of the question -- I won't be related to anyone, and (2) I'll be spending most of my time playing poker?

VBM

07-07-2005, 04:59 PM

Dear BigSteve,

Please order these 90's bands:
Erasure
Pet shop boys
Dead or Alive

...and these Musicals:
Les Mis
Hairspray
Phantom

...and eyebrows are better:
groomed, plucked & waxed?
bushy & manly?

Macdaddy Warsaw

07-07-2005, 05:11 PM

I clearly understand what metro means. He wanted clothes that were in style but not metro. I named Urban Outfitters and I have no idea where you pulled the Gap from, but I never mentioned it.

This shirt (http://www.guess.com/ProductDetails.aspx?pageType=PRODUCT&cid=94&style= M5280239&filter=0&sort=3) is similar to the one that I bought that I described as metro. Although this one looks like a print and the other one was embroidered. Embroidered sounds gay, looks metro.

Embroidery = metro, prints = not so much. Remember that kids.

But yeah, like I was saying, he WASN'T looking for metro clothes, so I gave him some clothes that WEREN'T metro.

Thanks for playing.

PS: Sorry if I sound rude or condescending, but it seems like you didn't even read his post or mine.

Luv2DriveTT

07-07-2005, 07:16 PM

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I clearly understand what metro means. He wanted clothes that were in style but not metro. I named Urban Outfitters and I have no idea where you pulled the Gap from, but I never mentioned it.

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My reading of his (and your) posts was that he wanted to dress stylishly, yet not come across as a metrosexual. (not sure where the Gap mention came from either, thats odd). How do you do this? Dress him up using brands a metro would use without out going to extremes, obviously not what an over the top metro would wear(like me, I look much gayer than Big Steve, there are countless witnesses who would concur). I would have recommended Joseph Abboud, Hugo Boss, and John Varvatos over Urban Outfitters.

For the record.... THIS is the real deal. I'm sure El D would approve. (http://www.etro.it/index_flash.html)

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

edtost

07-07-2005, 07:52 PM

[ QUOTE ]
For the record.... THIS is the real deal. I'm sure El D would approve. (http://www.etro.it/index_flash.html)

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

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wow.

Luv2DriveTT

07-07-2005, 07:53 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
For the record.... THIS is the real deal. I'm sure El D would approve. (http://www.etro.it/index_flash.html)

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

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wow.

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Ed approves as well I see

brassnuts

07-07-2005, 08:01 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I want to let the other tread die. Although it has some great advice and answers, it was just for women in the title. This one is for everyone.

If you have a question for me post it here. It will be answered.

Steve

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Great! It's like OOT's very own version of Queer Eye.

Macdaddy Warsaw

07-07-2005, 08:29 PM

Clearly, you are far more knowledgable than me (and 99% of other men) as well. I'll take being in the top 5% though.

I don't know, though, that seems like clothes you'd like to wear to go out (not that I really know the lines or anything), where as clothes you could buy at Urban Outfitters you could wear around campus, to class, etc.

I dunno. I mean, you're the expert, not me...

Sighzorz.

Luv2DriveTT

07-07-2005, 09:20 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I don't know, though, that seems like clothes you'd like to wear to go out (not that I really know the lines or anything), where as clothes you could buy at Urban Outfitters you could wear around campus, to class, etc.

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You have to dress for success, thats my motto. Now lets give BS his thread back /images/graemlins/smile.gif

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

PS: Dear Big Steve:

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll lollipop?

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:30 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear BigSteve,

Why is it the last few times ive gone into gay bars, ive been hit on by more women than men? Granted, these bars were become more and more mainstream as the truly Queer atmosphere moved to bars even more underground, but still it seemed odd. I mean, im assuming that just based on numbers alone, i should be hit on by way more guys, especially since the women there seemed to find me at least somewhat suitable. Do you think this could have anything to do with men having a higher tolerance for alcohol? Thanks.

peace

john nickle

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Dear John,

I think it is about attitude. Many people can dress "Metrosexual" and still be obviously straight by their attitude and mannerisms.

Also in the gay society, most men will make eye contact with you to get a response from your body language, before they will ever speak to you.

Straight Women AKA Fag Hags will just talk to you regardless of your sexuality.

I don't think it is based on alcohol consumption as much as it is based on the 3 things I have mentioned above.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Why are people bastards? (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2797684&page=0&view=colla psed&sb=5&o=14&fpart=1&vc=1)

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Dear Willluck,

According to dictionary.com,

#1. A child born out of wedlock.
#2. Something that is of irregular, inferior, or dubious origin.
#3. Slang. A person, especially one who is held to be mean or disagreeable.

I hope that helps.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:37 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear Steve,

I want go to clothes shopping before school starts. Where should I shop if I want to get some fashionable clothes without crossing the border into metrosexuality?

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice clothing, and Metrosexual clothing go hand and hand these days. Pick what you feel comfortable in. I would still shop in stores like American Eagle, GAP, Buckle, etc.

You can find good deals on clothes and you be the judge. If you think it makes you look to gay then you are probably right.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:43 PM

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Dear Steve,

Do fat gay guys have tighter pooper-holes?

Thanks in advance,

MW2

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Dear MW2

I wouldn't know, I don't buttfvck fat guys.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:46 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear Big Steve:

I'm thinking about moving to the rural South. Where are the best places to meet loose hot women, considering (1) family reunions are out of the question -- I won't be related to anyone, and (2) I'll be spending most of my time playing poker?

[/ QUOTE ]

Dear on_thg

Anywhere near the coast of Mississippi, from New Orleans, LA to Pensacola, FL would be a safe bet. They don't call them Southern Belles for nothing. There are plenty of casinos on the Mississippi Gulf Coast as well.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear BigSteve,

Please order these 90's bands:
Erasure
Pet shop boys
Dead or Alive

...and these Musicals:
Les Mis
Hairspray
Phantom

...and eyebrows are better:
groomed, plucked & waxed?
bushy & manly?

[/ QUOTE ]

Dear olliejen,

1. Pet Shop Boys, Dead or Alive, Erasure

2. Les Mis, Phantom, HairSpray(unless it is with Harvey Fierstein then that beats Phantom, but Les Mis is still the best)

3. Waxed but not "Drag Queen" waxed, just make them even and not too bushy.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-07-2005, 09:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I want to let the other tread die. Although it has some great advice and answers, it was just for women in the title. This one is for everyone.

If you have a question for me post it here. It will be answered.

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

Great! It's like OOT's very own version of Queer Eye.

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Hey you can't beat the advice I gave for the husband of the pregnant wife, 3 phone calls from the couch to marital bliss was pretty damn good.

Steve

PoBoy321

07-08-2005, 02:14 AM

Yo Steve,
So I'm sitting here with my buddy playing poker, All of a sudden, we start singing Del Amitri.

Are we gay?

brassnuts

07-08-2005, 02:16 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I want to let the other tread die. Although it has some great advice and answers, it was just for women in the title. This one is for everyone.

If you have a question for me post it here. It will be answered.

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

Great! It's like OOT's very own version of Queer Eye.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey you can't beat the advice I gave for the husband of the pregnant wife, 3 phone calls from the couch to marital bliss was pretty damn good.

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

That was great advice.

JoeC

07-08-2005, 02:41 AM

Steve,

At what age does a guy become too old to wear clothes from American Eagle?

Joe

Daliman

07-08-2005, 04:13 AM

Dear Steve;

Is there a stigma in the gay male community to being a "bottom". It seems to me I've heard that it is, and the only gay male I know wasn't sure when I mentioned it to him, but he didn't say whether he was a "bottom" either.

P.S. Glad you started doing this. I had actually thought about this a while ago, as there are several facets of gay culture/behavior that fascinate me, such as;

-Why do gay men often like effeminate looking men, or even transsexuals or transgenders? If you like men, shouldn't you usually like the masculinity?
- Same with gay women. Why do they not like men, but many go for the short-hair mulleted bull dykes?
-How common is it for gay people to have had sex with the opposite sex before if they don't necessarily consider themselves bisexual?
-Is it wierd having the same equipment you are looking for in a mate?
-Are gay men as overly sexual as straight men. Gay women as prudish compartively to straihgt women?

Jeez, get me started...

Talk2BigSteve

07-08-2005, 11:19 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Steve,

At what age does a guy become too old to wear clothes from American Eagle?

Joe

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Dear Joe,

30th Birthday.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-08-2005, 11:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Yo Steve,
So I'm sitting here with my buddy playing poker, All of a sudden, we start singing Del Amitri.

Are we gay?

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Yo PoBoy321,

I don't even know what the hell Del Amitri is...So yes you are.

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-08-2005, 11:57 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear Steve;

Is there a stigma in the gay male community to being a "bottom". It seems to me I've heard that it is, and the only gay male I know wasn't sure when I mentioned it to him, but he didn't say whether he was a "bottom" either.

P.S. Glad you started doing this. I had actually thought about this a while ago, as there are several facets of gay culture/behavior that fascinate me, such as;

-Why do gay men often like effeminate looking men, or even transsexuals or transgenders? If you like men, shouldn't you usually like the masculinity?
- Same with gay women. Why do they not like men, but many go for the short-hair mulleted bull dykes?
-How common is it for gay people to have had sex with the opposite sex before if they don't necessarily consider themselves bisexual?
-Is it wierd having the same equipment you are looking for in a mate?
-Are gay men as overly sexual as straight men. Gay women as prudish compartively to straihgt women?

Jeez, get me started...

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Dear Daliman,

Yes there is a stigma, too many of what I call the Superqueens are bottoms. They are the ones who you could pick out from 1000 yards and go "Yep he is gay as all hell!"
For some reason that is still a mystery to me, 99% of them are bottoms.

Why do gay men often like effeminate looking men, or even transsexuals or transgenders? If you like men, shouldn't you usually like the masculinity?

I like masculine men, I don't like boys who put on dresses, or get fake tits and chop their best friend off.

As for mullet haired bull dykes....flanel is cheaper and can be worn year round.

How many times before bisexual? Who knows 1 time with a female was enough to convince me, I was not meant to be a breeder.

Is it weird to have the same equipment? No, I have 5 things that I am concerned with when I look for a someone to date and equipment is not on the list. THE LIST: Shorter, Thinner, Younger, Cuter, and the most important quality is...ABILITY TO SPEAK A COMPLETE DAMN SENTENCE!!! There are way to many people that look great but are absolute Double D's (Dumb as Dogsh!t). They are not worth a nice date, hell they are not worth the drive-thru window.

If a gay man says he is not thinking about sex, he is lying and making Baby Jesus cry. As for gay women I try to avoid the Lumberjack Lesians as much as I possibly can.

I hope this helps.

Steve

Luv2DriveTT

07-09-2005, 01:24 AM

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If a gay man says he is not thinking about sex, he is lying and making Baby Jesus cry.

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I cracked up reading this one, Big Steve you are very funny.

Question:

I had a a female friend who liked getting her gay male friends into bed with her. Over time, she would break them down and have sex with them all, yet these boys still considered themselves gay.

1) What is going on in her head, is she a wacko looking for affection or is this her fetish? I do recall that she was molested by a family member at a young age, that could be a part of the equation, I don't know.

2) Is this similar to gay men trying to "convert" straight men?

3) If a gay man falls in love with her, gets married to lead a "normal life", yet still continues to date men can he still consider himself gay, or his he now forced to call himself bisexual?

I only ask because this really happened to someone I know, and I have never had anyone I could discuss the oddity behind the situation with before. So make with the advice Big Steve, this thread rules /images/graemlins/smile.gif

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

Blarg

07-09-2005, 01:26 AM

Dear Steve:

Which commercial mascots or whatever you call them are gay?

Please give us your opinion on, but not limited to, the following:

1. Ronald McDonald
2. Speedy Alka Seltzer
3. The Tidy Bowl Man
4. The Scrubbing Bubbles(hoo hoo hoo!)
5. Snuggles the Toilet Paper Bear
6. The Noid
7. Brawny Papertowel Lumberjack
8. Charlie the Tuna, from Starkist
9. Aunt Jemima
10. Uncle Ben
11. The Jolly Green Giant
12. The Little Green Sprout
13. Mr. Clean
14. The Laughing Cow
15. The Taco Bell dog
16. Joe Camel
17. Tony the Tiger
18. Count Chocula
19. Sugar Bear
20. The Der Wienerschnitzel Hot Dog

Talk2BigSteve

07-09-2005, 11:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If a gay man says he is not thinking about sex, he is lying and making Baby Jesus cry.

[/ QUOTE ]

I cracked up reading this one, Big Steve you are very funny.

Question:

I had a a female friend who liked getting her gay male friends into bed with her. Over time, she would break them down and have sex with them all, yet these boys still considered themselves gay.

1) What is going on in her head, is she a wacko looking for affection or is this her fetish? I do recall that she was molested by a family member at a young age, that could be a part of the equation, I don't know.

2) Is this similar to gay men trying to "convert" straight men?

3) If a gay man falls in love with her, gets married to lead a "normal life", yet still continues to date men can he still consider himself gay, or his he now forced to call himself bisexual?

I only ask because this really happened to someone I know, and I have never had anyone I could discuss the oddity behind the situation with before. So make with the advice Big Steve, this thread rules /images/graemlins/smile.gif

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

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Dear TT,

Honestly, I think she is a wacko looking for affection. I have a friend here named Brian who is gay, but still has all the Jesus Junk in his head. His best friend Angela just thinks he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. She always plays the "Crucifix Card" on him when she is the one who wants to hook up with him.

I am not sure about the molested part, but I know that it can have a reverse affect of people, you would think that people who have been molested would shy away from sex, but many having been introduced to it at an early age get a warp sense of that is how they show affection.

I don't think it is the same as a gay man wanting a straight guy. I feel the women like mention above actually feel that it is there goal to convert them back into husband material. I mean who better for a girl to marry then a gay guy, who can cook, clean and has great fashion sense? The gay converting the guy is just after the score, and could care less if he hits a girl or a guy next.

If a gay guy gets married to the straight girl, I think they will both be in need of some mental health counseling. The guy is more likely to cheat and not tell her he cheated. This is more the normal way that it will happen. Lou Diamond Phillips is the exception. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Steve

Arnfinn Madsen

07-09-2005, 11:30 PM

I am quite tolerant and open-minded but I had a similar experience that made me a bit /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

I danced with a girl I had not seen before, in a discotheque and it became quite intimate. Then we went to the bar and she started telling me that I was gay. I denied it, and she started to ask my friends and random bystanders if I was gay.

Finally, I managed to convince her that I was not gay and then she almost started crying /images/graemlins/shocked.gif. I put 2 and 2 together and realized that I had stepped into the trap homophobes could kill to avoid /images/graemlins/wink.gif and concluded that she ... eeehm.... he was a transvestite (it was a hot girl/man /images/graemlins/blush.gif).

I said: "I get the picture. I am not interested." She saw what was on my mind and starting saying "I am a girl, I am a girl". She started to annoy me a bit so I asked for ID and she gave me a female ID. I said that I am still not convinced so she offered me to do a body check. Luckily there was no male genitalias there /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

She then followed me to nachspiel and ultimately ended up in my bed, but with 10-15 minutes intervals she repeated how sad it was that I am not gay /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

This goes beyond my hetero one-dimensional brain's understanding but since your gay brain maybe also has some female parts maybe you can explain this to me /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Talk2BigSteve

07-09-2005, 11:43 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Dear Steve:

Which commercial mascots or whatever you call them are gay?

Please give us your opinion on, but not limited to, the following:

1. Ronald McDonald
2. Speedy Alka Seltzer
3. The Tidy Bowl Man
4. The Scrubbing Bubbles(hoo hoo hoo!)
5. Snuggles the Toilet Paper Bear
6. The Noid
7. Brawny Papertowel Lumberjack
8. Charlie the Tuna, from Starkist
9. Aunt Jemima
10. Uncle Ben
11. The Jolly Green Giant
12. The Little Green Sprout
13. Mr. Clean
14. The Laughing Cow
15. The Taco Bell dog
16. Joe Camel
17. Tony the Tiger
18. Count Chocula
19. Sugar Bear
20. The Der Wienerschnitzel Hot Dog

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1. Ronald McDonald, Grimus, and Mayor McCheese have Leather Sex Slave Pig Parties with the Fry Guys.
2. Speedy Alka Seltzer...Plop, Plop, Fizz, Fizz is the sound a gay guy makes while crapping and getting an enima in preparation for Anal Sex.
3. The Tidy Bowl Man uses his snake to keep the pipes free of [censored]...sounds gay to me.
4. Scrubbing Bubbles? is that another name for ribbed condoms.
5. Snuggle the bear only gets blowjobs from the porcupine since he spent 4 days in the hospital for trying to suck down some porcupine balls that didn't have any rice in them.
6. The Domino's Pizza Noid was caught in the Roman Baths with Little Caesar.
7. Brawny Lumberjack when he is not busy clubbing baby seals is busy using both hands for Eskimo Reach Arounds.
8. Charlie the Tuna, Don't let the fishy smell fool you, he take it in the crappie with the best of them.
9. Aunt Jemima is Mrs. Butterworth's bulldyke bitch.
10. Uncle Ben, The uncle on the other side of the family that you don't let see the kids.
11 & 12. Most Famous members of NAMBLA ever.
13. Mr. Clean, Domestic Godess, with peircing before it became a trend for gays.
14. The Laughing Cow, "Superbly Smooth & Creamy" every gay man's dream guy.
15. The Taco Bell dog, El perro de Bell del taco tiene gusto de conseguirlo pegado en su extremo.
16. Joe Camel, does he want one hump or can he handle two humps.
17. Tony the Tiger, What the hell are frosted flakes? Nothing more than Tony's Nut Crust.
18. Count Chocula and Frankenberry have been long time lovers, it makes Boo Berry mad as all hell.
19. Sugar Bear works the gay clubs, selling his Smack to all the little bear cubs.
20. The Der Wienerschnitzel Hot Dog, how much meat can you put in those buns anyway?

Steve

Talk2BigSteve

07-09-2005, 11:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I am quite tolerant and open-minded but I had a similar experience that made me a bit /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

I danced with a girl I had not seen before, in a discotheque and it became quite intimate. Then we went to the bar and she started telling me that I was gay. I denied it, and she started to ask my friends and random bystanders if I was gay.

Finally, I managed to convince her that I was not gay and then she almost started crying /images/graemlins/shocked.gif. I put 2 and 2 together and realized that I had stepped into the trap homophobes could kill to avoid /images/graemlins/wink.gif and concluded that she ... eeehm.... he was a transvestite (it was a hot girl/man /images/graemlins/blush.gif).

I said: "I get the picture. I am not interested." She saw what was on my mind and starting saying "I am a girl, I am a girl". She started to annoy me a bit so I asked for ID and she gave me a female ID. I said that I am still not convinced so she offered me to do a body check. Luckily there was no male genitalias there /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

She then followed me to nachspiel and ultimately ended up in my bed, but with 10-15 minutes intervals she repeated how sad it was that I am not gay /images/graemlins/confused.gif.

This goes beyond my hetero one-dimensional brain's understanding but since your gay brain maybe also has some female parts maybe you can explain this to me /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

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She said "How said it is that you are not gay?" AFTER you had sex with her??? DAMN that is insulting.

Steve