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deepsquat
07-06-2005, 08:20 PM
MP2 is tight passive. Havent played with him enough to know if he would raise this flop with K or A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif or TPTK

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB
beset7
07-06-2005, 08:27 PM
I think the turn and river would be easier to play if you 3-bet the flop.
Online247
07-06-2005, 08:48 PM
Hmm, we can 3 bet the flop for sure, but I'm kinda against pumping up flush draws. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif But man 3-bettign this flop would make the turn so much easier to play. See I would have tried c/r the turn considering the flop play, but based on your read villian might check through and giving freecards is another one of my pet peeves...

I guess leading the turn is fine considering you can fold to a raise. You sure he's tight passive right? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I don't know maybe that's a little weak, but yeah this hand is giving me some headaches.
deepsquat
07-06-2005, 09:14 PM
Definately TP, hes a pokertracker Mouse /images/graemlins/smile.gif
SlantNGo
07-06-2005, 09:54 PM
If you held AJ here, I would say, "Well played". However, you hold top two pair, and you've got a poor soul trapped in between. Your equity edge on the flop is too high not to 3-bet IMO.
deepsquat
07-06-2005, 10:13 PM
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If you held AJ here, I would say, "Well played". However, you hold top two pair, and you've got a poor soul trapped in between. Your equity edge on the flop is too high not to 3-bet IMO.

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Cool, so if a /images/graemlins/diamond.gif hits the turn i check call and fold the river w/out a boat?
SlantNGo
07-06-2005, 10:30 PM
Not necessarily. You didn't provide a read on SB so I assume he's loose passive. If SB bets the turn, a read is vital although I may consider folding to a loose-passive.

If SB checks, I would bet here, expecting tight-passive to fold if he doesn't have a diamond. If tight-passive calls, I'll check the river then re-evaluate if he bets. If tight-passive raises, the pot is now big enough to call to draw to your boat.
Duerig
07-06-2005, 11:53 PM
I think that you miss a ton of bets if you don't 3 bet this flop.
deepsquat
07-07-2005, 06:40 AM
MP had 44, not sure about SB
xenthebrain
07-07-2005, 06:41 AM
I play it the same...
You hand is worth value-betting and flopped flushes are rare.
You don't have any reason to think you do not have the best hand at the moment.