Confusing Hand

[webgator]

No reads on the table and I've only been here for a few hands.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

River: (8.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

I know my preflop and flop play are good, from there is where I am lost.

My thought was to re-raise the MP2's turn raise, but I was still worried about trip J's, yet still confused if he had trips why he didn't bet the flop. Same with the river.

[car ramrod]

I would be more worried about the A on the turn then trip J's. If he had trips I would expect a turn check raise.
I think I would fold the turn, without a read I may call down, but I think a fold is best.

[chaz64]

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I was still worried about trip J's, yet still confused if he had trips why he didn't bet the flop.

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Some players think it is fun to slowplay hands like trips - even when they shouldn't.

[crownjules]

Unless you know that MP2 likes to bluff scary cards, I would say his bet on the turn indicates he's holding an ace. You could raise him, but if he is indeed holding a weak ace, you'll probably scare him into calling down, fearing TPGK or trip jacks, and you'll lose an extra BB.

[webgator]

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I would be more worried about the A on the turn then trip J's.

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To be honest I think I completely overlooked that. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[MrWookie47]

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I would be more worried about the A on the turn then trip J's. If he had trips I would expect a turn check raise.
I think I would fold the turn, without a read I may call down, but I think a fold is best.

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This is probably best.

[Dave G.]

I'd fold the turn against an unknown. You don't have much chance of improving if you are behind.

If any card other than the A falls and he donkbets like this, you should raise it. These sort of random bets seem to be popping up all over the place, and I've found that they don't necessarily represent any significant strength. But the A is a little bit too scary, so a fold is probably right.

If you have a read that he bluffs scare cards like this then call it down.

[McGahee]

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My thought was to re-raise the MP2's turn raise, but I was still worried about trip J's, yet still confused if he had trips why he didn't bet the flop. Same with the river.

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MP2 was also worried about trip J's. That's why he donkbet his A instead of C/R'ing.
Fold the turn.

[imported_The Vibesman]

I think if he had trips he could check the flop, but would probably try to check-raise the turn. Seems he caught an ace on the turn and went right at it. I don't mind calling down against an unknown who might be bluffing at the pot. If I know my opponent well and he won't bet anything but a made hand I will fold.

[bozlax]

This is a tough fold (and one I all too frequently fail to make), but against an unknown I think you have to pull the ripcord, here. At micro-limits, you're not going to find enough players pulling tricky bluffs to make this call worth it.

[gopnik]

I fold the turn, pots not big enough to call down (you are paying 2BB to win 6BB when you probably have 2 outs)

[webgator]

Thanks gang.

BTW, Villian had KJ os to make his trips.

[nomadtla]

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This is a tough fold (and one I all too frequently fail to make)

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Bingo! Me too

[Fantam]

I think its more likely that MP2 had something like Ax than trip J's, and bet when he paired his A on the turn.

Nonetheless I expect that I would have called down the same as you did, in case MP2 was trying to bluff me off the best hand.

And I would have been wrong and should learn to fold hands like these when you are most likely beaten in smallish pots as other posters suggested.