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callmedonnie

07-06-2005, 01:48 AM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
5 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls.

River: (7.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 raises, Hero folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

I was new to the table and had only seen about ten hands, tops.

istewart

07-06-2005, 01:51 AM

Call it, especially as you don't know Villain.

hemstock

07-06-2005, 01:55 AM

Call and hope he doesnt turn clubs.

cold_cash

07-06-2005, 01:56 AM

Not me, especially against a line-up I don't know.

You'll see Qx plenty.

DemonDeac

07-06-2005, 01:58 AM

im not layin it down

Bco1/75

07-06-2005, 02:04 AM

12.5:1 with a set best kicker? Too cheap not to call.

KeysrSoze

07-06-2005, 02:04 AM

With no reads, I certainly can't be 90% certain he's not some idiot who slowplayed trip queens/worse kicker to the end.

Dave G.

07-06-2005, 02:54 AM

That is one nasty fold dude. If it comes back 2 to you yeah you can dump it, but for 1 bet? Ugly. Since you aren't closing the action, it isn't as earth-shatteringly horrible as it would otherwise be, but still, you gotta call. Flush draws aren't that common and he's certainly not guaranteed to have one here.

At least you bet the river though. That was good.

Bodhi

07-06-2005, 02:58 AM

I'm going to miss you:

http://home.earthlink.net/~bodhibones/images/MoneyBurn.jpg

Dave G.

07-06-2005, 03:01 AM

That's awesome.

SoftcoreRevolt

07-06-2005, 03:04 AM

Call bitch, you'd be shocked how often some idiot will have slow played a crappier Queen to the river on that board, or something even crazier.

adsman

07-06-2005, 03:05 AM

You must be joking. I would consider reraising here.

xenthebrain

07-06-2005, 05:41 AM

No way I'm folding this.

Read Why you guys aren't crushing these Microlimit games... (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=462860&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=7&o=14&fpart=1) by Ed Miller

TomBrooks

07-06-2005, 06:07 AM

No, I don't fold. If I didn't want to risk having to invest an extra bet, I'd rather check/call than bet/fold.

brettbrettr

07-09-2005, 07:00 PM

Ahh, chip off the old block. Mom would be proud of you for not caring about money.

McGahee

07-09-2005, 07:43 PM

A 3-bet is worse than a fold. You're pushing out the guy you have beat and matching 2 extra bets HU with the guy who likely has you beat after he caps.

I couldn't make this fold, but it's closer than people think. With that caller in front this is NEVER a bluff; and with a worse Q he's raising the turn almost every time; and the pot isn't THAT big.

Shillx

07-09-2005, 07:49 PM

There is just about no way that you are good here but I almost always call. The only thing that you can really hope for is that he has Qx and just decided to lurk until the river.

Brad

McGahee

07-09-2005, 08:06 PM

I feel pretty much the same way. I'd call it but the fact that everyone seems to think this is the worst fold ever makes me think too many are making way too many loose calls on the river.

I don't expect any micro player to make this laydown, but this old thread linked in the SS forum the other day is good food for thought at least...
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=560235&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=all&vc=1