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Subfallen
07-05-2005, 10:21 PM
Villain just sat down and posted UTG.

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Preflop: Loser is MP with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif. UTG posts a blind of $5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Loser 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Loser raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Loser bets</font>, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 6.70 BB
sthief09
07-05-2005, 10:24 PM
I call call call
Jeff W
07-05-2005, 10:42 PM
I agree agree agree
banks
07-05-2005, 10:49 PM
i dont think i bet this flop
and call down after the K hits on the turn
Subfallen
07-05-2005, 10:59 PM
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I call call call

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Hmm...this reasoning is opaque to me...are we just trying to get to showdown cheaply thinking A/WB? I don't really understand, since if I raise and get 3-bet, I can call/fold even cheaper than paying 2.5 BB and showing down.

But I can also fold a lot of marginal hands with six outs against me that would bluff-bet this board, and the pot is probably big enough to try to win...but I'm sure I'm wrong because you guys agreed, so a little elaboration please? /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Jeff W
07-05-2005, 11:03 PM
We have outs when behind and we don't want to give some clown UTG poster a chance to move us of our hand/draw when we're best(which is often).
Subfallen
07-05-2005, 11:09 PM
Yeah, I wasn't suggesting folding the flop, rather the turn unimproved, but I see your point where in the worst case we're against like 88 and we have six outs getting 7:1 on the turn.

Even that though isn't a mistake tho, so do you think we're actually good here a decent % of the time?

Edit - duh, you said that in your post. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
Jeff W
07-05-2005, 11:11 PM
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Even that though isn't a mistake tho, so do you think we're actually good here a decent % of the time?

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Yes, especially against a clown UTG poster. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Also, this is the quintessential bluffing flop.