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mach3
07-05-2005, 09:10 PM
My raises are causing everyone to fold at a tightish table. I limp AA UTG hoping to 3 bet someone - no such luck. SB completes - an over aggressive regular most here would recognize. The BB is very similar. Flop comes 7-2-8, 2 clubs. SB leads, BB raises... Do you wait until the turn or pound now, scared you might have already messed it up? Both are regular bluffers...

BradL
07-05-2005, 09:12 PM
Do I have the A of clubs?

-Brad

Nightwish
07-05-2005, 09:16 PM
Go ahead and raise now. You're in a good place.

As for preflop, I would still keep on raising my big hands at a tight table where everyone is folding, but I would also greatly expand the range of hands with which I'm raising. If they want to fold, that's fine. Your steals can be quite profitable.

spamuell
07-05-2005, 09:19 PM
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If they want to fold, that's fine. Your steals can be quite profitable.

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That's all well and good if you're trying to steal but this time you have AA and if they want to fold, that's not fine at all.

Unless you've recently stolen a few times, I'd much rather limp here with AA at a tight table frequently folding to UTG raises, while I do agree that we should be raising much worse hands than usual as well (though I don't know how far to go).

budman
07-05-2005, 09:20 PM
I never seem to win when I limp with aces.

On the flop I think you need to pop it, just to get some sense of where you are. If you are already dead, find out now rather than in the expensive rounds.

I hope you won this pot.

bugstud
07-05-2005, 09:22 PM
raise because a coldcall looks pretty fishy.

rickieO
07-05-2005, 09:24 PM
i like the limp preflop at this table.

raising seems best on the flop, maybe ull catch someone with a pair or a 4 flush.

the rickiebear

mach3
07-05-2005, 09:24 PM
No A of clubs. I am getting way too much respect at this table, people must have some #'s on me. Unfortunately when I steal it never seems to work out - LOL. They fold when I have AA and call when I have 77.

Nightwish
07-05-2005, 10:12 PM
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No A of clubs. I am getting way too much respect at this table, people must have some #'s on me. Unfortunately when I steal it never seems to work out - LOL. They fold when I have AA and call when I have 77.

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Raising with 77 is not a steal.

mach3
07-05-2005, 10:19 PM
I prefer not to do it from EP.

Klepton
07-05-2005, 11:19 PM
change tables retardacon

elysium
07-05-2005, 11:31 PM
hi mach

pound now. they're betting their draws and/ or pair.

elindauer
07-05-2005, 11:43 PM
Raise now. You are ahead, but calling gives the SB correct odds to draw to a hand like middle pair. Knock him out, or make him call incorrectly.

Good luck.
Eric

elindauer
07-05-2005, 11:46 PM
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On the flop I think you need to pop it, just to get some sense of where you are. If you are already dead, find out now rather than in the expensive rounds.

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Hi budman,

If you are raising for information, presumably you believe you can use that information to fold. Are you suggesting that you will fold AA here if, say, the bb caps and leads the turn?

You hit the right answer I believe, raise the flop, but for the wrong reason. In general, raising for information is overrated.

my 2 cents.
Eric

elindauer
07-05-2005, 11:50 PM
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Raising with 77 is not a steal.

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I don't know how you are defining "steal", but if it's a raise where you would prefer to have everyone fold, than it is.

Nightwish
07-06-2005, 04:28 PM
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change tables retardacon

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What is your [censored] problem?

sfer
07-06-2005, 04:52 PM
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I prefer not to do it from EP.

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I raise 77 from EP. People call my UTG raises routinely too. Coincidence?

ike
07-06-2005, 05:10 PM
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raise because a coldcall looks pretty fishy.

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No it doesn't. You limped utg preflop and now you coldcall on 873 and 2 clubs, looks much more like overs/gutshot/flushdraw than like aces.

EDIT: I still prefer raising, but calling doesn't tip your hand that much.