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solucky
07-05-2005, 05:01 PM
The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

Subby
07-05-2005, 05:04 PM
"It's a cold world, babygirl..."

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07-05-2005, 05:04 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

Nigel
07-05-2005, 05:26 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

Shoe
07-05-2005, 07:08 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

2+2 wannabe
07-05-2005, 07:11 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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07-05-2005, 07:14 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to be popular in this thread.

ds914
07-05-2005, 07:34 PM
Learning 6max helps save puppies. You don't want to be a puppy-killer, do you?

Brainwalter
07-05-2005, 07:37 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

MadMat
07-05-2005, 07:47 PM
If you really don't want to play 6-max give the 1/2 9-max tables a try, I decided to clear this months bonus on them, and am finding them very enjoyable!

Low sample size I know, but I've done about 1k hands clearing the bonus, and I've found it plays much like the .5/1 game did before it was 6-maxed!

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07-05-2005, 08:10 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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2+2 wannabe
07-05-2005, 09:03 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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07-05-2005, 09:12 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but learning 6-max is a very idea.

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07-05-2005, 09:28 PM
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Learning 6max helps save puppies. You don't want to be a puppy-killer, do you?

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I read that learning 6max in linked to a cure for cancer; and rainbows.

Greg J
07-05-2005, 09:29 PM
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Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but learning 6-max is a very idea.

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Thanks for clearing that up for us. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

StellarWind
07-05-2005, 09:57 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Sorry to hear that. I think it's been tough on a lot of players.

We criticize Party so much that it is only fair to give credit when they do something right. The immediate huge popularity of the new 6-max games shows that for once they have given many of their customers a really fun new choice.

That's supposed to be what it's all about.

You winning players just need to keep up with the fish. That's your job.

TheHammer24
07-05-2005, 10:17 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Sorry to hear that. I think it's been tough on a lot of players.

We criticize Party so much that it is only fair to give credit when they do something right. The immediate huge popularity of the new 6-max games shows that for once they have given many of their customers a really fun new choice.

That's supposed to be what it's all about.

You winning players just need to keep up with the fish. That's your job.

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07-05-2005, 10:17 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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Learning 6-max is +ev if you show a profit over the long run. These deep throughts have been provided to you free of charge by yours truly.

StacysMom
07-05-2005, 10:34 PM
So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit? Seriously now, get over it, learn 6 max, or learn full ring, because if you cant beat .5/1 you haven't learne either one

wegs the wegs
07-05-2005, 10:48 PM
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So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit?

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Both games at this limit on Party are very beatable. Those who can't beat either should stay at 25NL or not play.

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07-06-2005, 08:45 AM
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So i am the only perosn who is quite certain that .5/1 full ring is still a beatable limit?

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Both games at this limit on Party are very beatable. Those who can't beat either should stay at 25NL or not play.

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Brutal honesty is what makes twoplustwo the caffeinated poker forum. I agree. And just so we have something else to talk about, the 6-max 25NL tables have killed the 25NL for me. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

stigmata
07-06-2005, 08:51 AM
adapt or die

MicroBob
07-06-2005, 08:57 AM
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I absolutely refuse to believe this is true.

I have zero urge to go there and check out the games personally...but feel completely confident in my belief that if you think the party full-ring 0.5/1 games are 'unbeatable' or are merely 'tough' then you have two options:

1. Give up poker

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You have to consider the idea that most players at .5/1, even those who are just playing tight on full-ring tables, are typically not the type of player who reads the books or studies even semi-frequently.
Thus, if you continue to work on your game you SHOULD be able to play better poker than them.


Also - there's nothing wrong with 6-max and anyone who can't beat the full-ring games should learn some appropriate aggression. Thankfully, there's 5 and 6-max tables out there to help one do that.

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07-06-2005, 09:10 AM
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I haven't played a single full ring game since they started the .5/1 6-max, but I have a hard time believing this too. Has anyone else observed a change in the full ring games? Not that I'm ever going back.

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07-06-2005, 09:36 AM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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poker is about losing - 6 max is about losing the most

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

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07-06-2005, 10:06 AM
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I haven't played a single full ring game since they started the .5/1 6-max, but I have a hard time believing this too. Has anyone else observed a change in the full ring games? Not that I'm ever going back.

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Destroyed is the wrong word. However, it appears to have hurt them considerably.

Beatable? Of course. Plenty of decent to good tables? Sure. But ultra-juicy? Not anymore.

I've done a lot of bonus clearing over the past few months at .5/1.00 since I don't like to play my regular limits unless I'm sharp and concentrating, and my job has been wearing me out. It's usually pretty surprising to see less than 6-10 tables at 10BB or more average pot sizes. Yesterday, I played 423 hands at .5/1.00 and occaisionally one full ring game would hit 10BB pot average, and frequently there weren't any of that size on the list, not to mention no 11, 12, or 13 BB average pot size tables.

Small sample size though, and it wasn't during prime time.

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07-06-2005, 10:12 AM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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07-06-2005, 10:17 AM
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I haven't played a single full ring game since they started the .5/1 6-max, but I have a hard time believing this too. Has anyone else observed a change in the full ring games? Not that I'm ever going back.

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The table vpip scores on party's .5/1 full have dropped well below 30, 20-25% is the norm, scores in the teens are not uncommon. Beatable? Probably. I didn't stick around long enough to find out.

The action has moved to 6max as far as .5/1 is concerned.

Supern
07-06-2005, 10:26 AM
6max poker is the cure for HIV and AIDS /images/graemlins/grin.gif

RaiNz
07-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Being able to play SH is an essential skill. Atleast now it can be learned at a cheaper price for those who have smaller bankrolls. I am not going to play on Party until I get back home for my Vegas vacation, but I cannot wait to jump into these sure to be juicy games.

solucky
07-06-2005, 10:33 AM
I am definetely not a great player, but it is a BIG difference for my style to have a average pot from 9$ or from 5$ on a full ring 0,5 game

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07-06-2005, 10:38 AM
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what do you do if you like to club baby seals?!? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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07-06-2005, 10:57 AM
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Play nine max.

Greg J
07-06-2005, 10:59 AM
I don't know if anyone has said this b/c I have not read the whole thread, but seriously dude, even with the 6 max games, if you can't beat full ring .5/1 then you might want to think about quitting poker. I'm not being mean, just serious.

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07-06-2005, 10:59 AM
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The table vpip scores on party's .5/1 full have dropped well below 30, 20-25% is the norm, scores in the teens are not uncommon.

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the party 30/60 game has an avg vpip of 25-26. i can't imagine that the typical .5/1 table is tighter. if this is really true, though, the tremendous rake at the .5/1 level would make the game very tough to beat.

MicroBob
07-06-2005, 11:03 AM
that's what i'm saying though.

if it is your 'style' that you can no longer beat the .5/1 game then the fact that these games are changing a little bit is a GOOD thing....because now you KNOW that this style just isn't very good poker.


The problem is NOT with the slightly tighter (but still bad) players that are at .5/1
The problem is with your inability to beat them.

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07-06-2005, 11:07 AM
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07-06-2005, 11:14 AM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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Can we stop quoting!!!!

Supern
07-06-2005, 11:20 AM
I have seen many tables at 0.5/1 that tight.
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I don't play for long at them of course.

MicroBob
07-06-2005, 11:23 AM
after scrolling through this whole post to get to the punch-line I laughed pretty hard.

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07-06-2005, 11:39 AM
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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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07-06-2005, 12:06 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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07-06-2005, 12:28 PM
As an aside, should you be a moderator if your brain is misfiring?
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07-06-2005, 12:28 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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That's purty

BluEsiNsOuL
07-06-2005, 01:30 PM
I don't think 6-max hurt the full ring game that bad, if you feel like you can't beat it anymore, its either a downswing or you are a marginal winner at this limit.

solucky
07-06-2005, 03:41 PM
So far i can beat them and with RB and Bonus i have a small win, but over the year its going down a few $$$$$$$

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07-06-2005, 04:01 PM
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I absolutely refuse to believe this is true.

I have zero urge to go there and check out the games personally...but feel completely confident in my belief that if you think the party full-ring 0.5/1 games are 'unbeatable' or are merely 'tough' then you have two options:

1. Give up poker

2. Learn how to play



You have to consider the idea that most players at .5/1, even those who are just playing tight on full-ring tables, are typically not the type of player who reads the books or studies even semi-frequently.
Thus, if you continue to work on your game you SHOULD be able to play better poker than them.


Also - there's nothing wrong with 6-max and anyone who can't beat the full-ring games should learn some appropriate aggression. Thankfully, there's 5 and 6-max tables out there to help one do that.

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It isn't true... yeah, the first couple of days they tightened up a bit, but they're just as nutty as ever.

Guy raised pre-flop with 55 (I had AK, 3-bet it)... K on flop, called to river and hit a 5 on the river. Arggh.

They're the same as always.

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07-06-2005, 04:23 PM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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Can you give us a reason to stop quoting?

Yads
07-06-2005, 11:42 PM
Seriously, if you can't beat the lowest limit on any site, you suck. Plain and simple.

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07-07-2005, 01:54 AM
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The 6 max games destroyed my 0,5/1 games. But i think Party like to make more hands / hour and more rakes. Bye Party but hope good for the Party -shares

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your choices are playing it or leaving Party.

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Learning 6max seems +ev if your desire is to be good at poker.

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Learning 6max is +ev if you want to maximize profits.

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Learning 6max is -ev if you hate money

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Even if you hate money, learning 6max is still +ev.

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why would you waste time learning if you hate money?

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To avoid making correct plays by accident of course!

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Can we stop quoting????

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