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schwza

07-05-2005, 01:15 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t465)
Button (t915)
SB (t725)
BB (t1120)
UTG (t1160)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t640)
MP2 (t1305)
MP3 (t895)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ??

11t

07-05-2005, 01:17 PM

I think this is a push, the pot is like 25% of you stack and you will be able to pick it up a decent portion of the time without showing down a hand. Sucks if somebody limps in EP with 99-JJ though.

clutch

07-05-2005, 01:30 PM

3 limpers and 3 behind, I would limp. A push is probably going to get a call from somewhere a majority of the time (what's the buyin?) and at best you're going to be up against overcards. I wouldn't be desperate just yet.

11t

07-05-2005, 01:32 PM

What percentage of the time do you think a push is going to get a call here?

zambonidrivr

07-05-2005, 01:36 PM

100%. 1000% if they know your 2+2'er

DangerGoodson

07-05-2005, 01:40 PM

I think either play is fine. I don't like pushing for any reason at level 2, (Unless I have AA or KK and I'm sure I'm getting called), but with your stack it seems alright.

schwza

07-05-2005, 01:40 PM

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100%. 1000% if they know your 2+2'er

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really? i'd expect 2+2 to push 88 and raise AA to 130, so i'd be more inclined to call a 2+2 if i'd limped 99 utg. they don't know i'm 2+2 though - i keep my screen name a well-guarded secret /images/graemlins/smile.gif

this is a 33, btw.

kyro

07-05-2005, 01:43 PM

push. sooooo much money in the pot. hope if anyone calls you it's overcards...or 44.

2callzU

07-05-2005, 01:48 PM

Limp. The first three positions limped in which is scary and I feel that your stack is still big enough, making the risk not worth the reward. Also I think the blind level is one too small. If the blinds were at 25/50 then I would probably push.

kyro

07-05-2005, 01:50 PM

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100%. 1000% if they know your 2+2'er

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a mild overstatement at best. i'm guessing 50% max.

kyro

07-05-2005, 01:51 PM

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Limp. The first three positions limped in which is scary and I feel that your stack is still big enough, making the risk not worth the reward. Also I think the blind level is one too small. If the blinds were at 25/50 then I would probably push.

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He's got about 15BB here with 3 limpers. It's certainly close, but stealing these chips will be very beneficial once he hits Level 3. I push here.

PapiChulo503

07-05-2005, 01:53 PM

Im thinking limp.

Blinds are still low so you have a bit of time to wait for a better opportunity. If you push im guessing 1 or 2 of your opponents have overcards if not a better pocket pair. What percentage of the time does an 8-A hit the flop?

kyro

07-05-2005, 01:58 PM

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Im thinking limp.

Blinds are still low so you have a bit of time to wait for a better opportunity. If you push im guessing 1 or 2 of your opponents have overcards if not a better pocket pair. What percentage of the time does an 8-A hit the flop?

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The blinds are low. Hero's stack is pretty low too, though.

And most opponents aren't going to call 430 chips off with "just" overcards. They'll need either really good overcards or a pocket pair to call.