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Olback

07-05-2005, 05:06 AM

Another $27 PS turbo hand.

I flopped 2 pair and slow played it. Should i have raised on the flop?

Should i have just called on the turn or mini raised and then folded?

After he rasied i put him on the straight but figured i was getting huge odds to call. And he could have had a huge arrear of hands which i beat, therefore i could not fold.

Correct play?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1890)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t4700)
CO (t1445)
Button (t1420)
SB (t1390)
Hero (t1800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, MP1 calls t30, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB bets t60, Hero calls t60, MP1 calls t60, MP2 folds.

Turn: (t300) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB bets t240, Hero raises to t700, MP1 folds, SB raises to t1300, Hero calls t600.

River: (t2900) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: t2900

Results in white below: 
SB has Jd Th (straight, jack high).
Hero has 9h 2s (two pair, nines and twos).
Outcome: SB wins t2900.

pergesu

07-05-2005, 05:09 AM

Eww you have to raise that flop. Straight draw + flush draw, make em pay. Pot committed on the turn, gotta go with it unless you know he has a straight. Being almost sure doesn't count.

handsome

07-05-2005, 05:12 AM

1. Raise the flop, 2. don't post results.

The Yugoslavian

07-05-2005, 05:13 AM

Yikes..that two pair is fairly hideous. Ummm....with 4 to the flop I'm pretty sure a raise of some sort is in order. The thing about this flop is that you are likely ahead but there are a ton of turn cards that should scare you (like the 7). Your opponent is playing his hand like an OESD or flush draw on the flop...he seems to like his hand even better after one of your scare cards hit (plus there is that other pesky call from behind player still to act), I think I may actually fold this /images/graemlins/shocked.gif or call behind and desperately hope to see a showdown for cheap.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian

07-05-2005, 05:14 AM

How is he pot committed on the turn? He has like 1700+ chips behind.

Yugoslav

bmxreed36

07-05-2005, 05:14 AM

You are almost certainly beat here and you don't have odds to call a 4-outer. Easy fold.

Olback

07-05-2005, 05:17 AM

So this is an easy fold on the turn before i raise him?

Once i reraised him should i have folded there?

The reason i did not fold is that there are so many people that play crap that they could have shown me TPTK etc

But i think you guys are right i should have raised on the flop and tried to win it there as there are alot of scare cards for me.

The Yugoslavian

07-05-2005, 05:20 AM

After you raise the turn so big you're doomed...I'm not sure how you can raise and still get away from your hand since he bet so much at you. Without any knowledge of the villian...I really don't mind folding since I think his turn bet says alot since the 7 appeared to help his hand.

Yugoslav

unreal_nh

07-05-2005, 05:32 AM

throw in a good sized raise on the flop and if he calls and bets out on the turn either call of fold depending on the size of the bet.

pergesu

07-05-2005, 06:10 AM

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How is he pot committed on the turn? He has like 1700+ chips behind.

Yugoslav

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I mean after SB reraises all-in. He's getting like 3.8-1 on the call.