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baronzeus

07-04-2005, 11:41 PM

I'm just getting in the swing of things here. Opinions on these hands?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1640)
Button (t3185)
Hero (t3175)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to t800, BB calls [t1640] t400, Hero calls t840.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

CO (t1015)
Hero (t848)
SB (t808)
BB (t1420)
UTG (t985)
MP1 (t1648)
MP2 (t1276)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
4 folds, Hero raises to t325, SB calls [t808] t75, 1 fold, Hero calls t483.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1240)
BB (t1785)
UTG (t1700)
Hero (t3275)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to t400, SB calls [t1240] t100, 1 fold, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t700

EDIT: Err, I raised and got pushed in all 3 of these hands. The converter messed up.

unreal_nh

07-05-2005, 01:02 AM

imo, if u are willing to call their push, then u might as well push yourself. this puts the decision on them.

bkbluedevil

07-05-2005, 01:04 AM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1640)
Button (t3185)
Hero (t3175)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to t800, BB calls [t1640] t400, Hero calls t840.

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If you are going to play, I would push all in to begin with so as not to encourage action. This push depends almost entirely on his calling range.

bkbluedevil

07-05-2005, 01:06 AM

#3 is an easy push. Min raising is bad. You are chip lead and have twice as many chips as the other guys so doubleing them up while unpleasent isn't the end of the world.

EDIT: I didn't see the blinds at first so it's closer. I still think min raising is bad.

Bluff Daddy

07-05-2005, 01:13 AM

#2 is absolutely horrible, you need to be aggressive but 6 2 is complete trash and you still have plenty of time to get your chips in w/ much better

yabastid

07-05-2005, 01:28 AM

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#2 is absolutely horrible, you need to be aggressive but 6 2 is complete trash and you still have plenty of time to get your chips in w/ much better

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word.

SlackerMcFly

07-05-2005, 01:36 AM

1. A small raise here is asking for action. Do you really want to see a flop with 4T? No. Either steal with every chip or fold. Since you raised that odd amount, his call is inevitable and you are stuck on the flop. Fold it push the next hand all-in regardless. You created your own dilemma here.

2. No reason to push here at all. Fold pre-flop. Since you min-bet this and saw the re-raise, I can't imagine calling here. Why put yourself in this position so early?

3. As a big stack, I see no reason to beg for a call with this hand. Unless you have totally dominated every raise up to this point, let the smallies duke it out. The blinds won't hit you for 2 more hands so why risk bubbling out with a 15% hand?

Just a noob's opinion, but tighten up the leaks on your position play.

holla, ehot, wtf and all that. SpilackerMcBubbleOut

lastchance

07-05-2005, 01:41 AM

Never raise half your stack. Just push it if you want to steal, especially with 5x BB. If you have less than 10x BB, the correct play is almost always push/fold.

And you're pretty pot committed on all of those except maybe the last one.

donny5k

07-05-2005, 03:59 AM

Knowing the buyin might help. Push 1 and 3, fold 2. After the raise in 3 I think it's a call but it's close.