Easy QQ laydown?

[marand]

Both opponents are LAGish TAGs. (30/20/2)

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Obviously only the turn is interesting.
Easy laydown to the check/raise but can't fold to the donkbet?
Raising the turn seems over aggressive since I am not going to make SB fold an ace.
Thoughts?

[baronzeus]

I think so.

[banks]

what does he have that you beating if he three bets preflop and check raises the turn when the A falls??
wouldnt you see more aggression from a PP with this flop??

[marand]

I cannot beat anything that he is "representing". The only thing I can beat here is a "move". If he knew that I would fold a big pair to a check/raise it might be profitable for him to take a shot at the pot. But it seems like a rather costly bluff since the pot is 3-way so I am guessing the risk that he has less than a pair of aces is very small.

[krishanleong]

fold to the first bet on the flop?

Krishan

[marand]

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fold to the first bet on the flop?

Krishan

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I thought about folding to the first bet on the turn, but I wasn't convinced that BB actually had an ace. Thought it was fairly likely that he had a smaller pocket pair than me and didn't want to call two streets and instead bet out to find out where he was in the hand.

[krishanleong]

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fold to the first bet on the flop?

Krishan

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I thought about folding to the first bet on the turn, but I wasn't convinced that BB actually had an ace. Thought it was fairly likely that he had a smaller pocket pair than me and didn't want to call two streets and instead bet out to find out where he was in the hand.

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What are the odds that both the BB and SB don't have an ace? I don't think BB has an ace all the time either. But the combined chances make me a little worried.

Krishan

[marand]

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fold to the first bet on the flop?

Krishan

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I thought about folding to the first bet on the turn, but I wasn't convinced that BB actually had an ace. Thought it was fairly likely that he had a smaller pocket pair than me and didn't want to call two streets and instead bet out to find out where he was in the hand.

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What are the odds that both the BB and SB don't have an ace? I don't think BB has an ace all the time either. But the combined chances make me a little worried.

Krishan

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Well, yes I was more than a "little worried", but I just couldn't bring myself to fold on the first bet. I guess it's a fair chance that someone has the ace.

Perhaps folding to the first bet is best, but I think I might be too tight so I try to get to showdown "when in doubt" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Rudis]

Your only chance of winning this hand is raising the turn...and thats wrong.