turning pro

[indyace]

I am getting ready to turn pro. I am going to play poker for a living with the a little help from any of you. I plan to leave for Las Vegas as soon as I get $50,000. I think that will be a good start up bankroll. If you are interested in backing me let me know I think it will be a worthwhile investment. I have about $2500 so that leaves only $47,500.

[Jimbo]

Just be greedy! Take $1500 and bet it on 22 on the first roulette wheel you see when you hit Vegas. This will give you the required bankroll and it will be fat city from there on out. You may send me 50% of your next years winings for this lock if you really want a backer.

[The _Grifter]

If the poker gig doesn't work out, you could always fall back on being a comedian. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[mobes]

Yeah, can this guy be serious?

[brad]

me 2.

i need 1 mil for hghest games

[Glenn]

"Take $1500 and bet it on 22 on the first roulette wheel you see when you hit Vegas"

Don't listen to this advice...Jimbo is setting you up. Bet on 20.

[balt999]

I have 50K...send your resume and a couple of head shots and we'll do business /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

[FREDSKINS]

Dont know why I remember this but I read in one of Sklanskys books something about the number 20. I suggest 7

[gaylord focker]

I have some ambitions of my own. Id like to become a professional football player. The only problem is, I'm a 5'9 white guy, and I only weigh about a buck sixty soaking wet. However, I think if I got about 5 grand a peice from all you guys, I could get the best training, equiptment, and human growth steriod there is out there, and I might have a shot. Please let me know.

P.S- I do run about a 4.6 forty yard dash, so it isnt like we arnt working with any tools here.

[ninthyaga]

What's your record like? Post a log of all your results so far.

[John Ho]

If you're at $2500 /forums/images/icons/confused.gif and thinking of going pro maybe you should go to school THEN get a job.

[indyace]

Thank you very much for the advice. I think I will build my bankroll by playing 10-20 two or three nights a week. I dodn't have any stats published but I will keep them on record for any possible backers. Look forward to seeing some of you at the tables. indy

[brad]

what about me? i destroyed the 3-6 stud game playing for the jackpot (like 65k) the other night.

so its not like im working without any tools here.

[tdiddy]

You have $2,500 and you are going to build a bankroll playing 10/20? You are taking on a pretty big risk of going broke with only 125 big bets. I suggest you read Mason's Gambling Theory and Other Topics before deciding to go pro.

[jayadd]

its amazing how you guys use the books these guys write as the bible. I play 5-10 with kill omaha 8 or better and and 5-10 to 10-20 holdem. I started about 8 months ago playing full time and my best week is $2100 and worst was $250 profit. I am averaging $1200 a week in cash playing 30-40 hrs a week. Can i play higher limits? maybe? but why when the action is so hot at my levels and im making a living playing this silly game. The best advice i have if you want to play poker for a living is treat it as a job. Dont take your profits and blow it at the craps table.
good luck

[DanS]

Report back in another eight months if you're still averaging 2-4 big bets an hour. Sheesh.

Dan

[Homer]

I wouldn't want to start playing professionally with a 125 BB bankroll. Assuming a 1 BB/hr win rate and 10 BB/hr standard deviation, you have a risk of ruin of 8%. I wouldn't want to turn pro knowing that I have a 1/12 chance of going bust.

-- Homer

[jayadd]

big bet small bet all that stuff is great if you are playing 30-60 or higher. At 5-10 limits its ALL about the players. I play down at AC where every tourist that wants to play poker sits down and has 100 tells and will hesitate making a call on river unless they haave the NUTs and even then they wont make you pay to see it. On a saturday there is at least 1500 at my table, to divide up among peoople who have common sense. All i want to do is get 1/3 of that in a 10 hour shift. I am going to clear 60,000 profit in 9 months at the end of Feb with little ability to lose. Even on a bad month ( hasnt happend yet) my loss can only be 2700 thats losing every session for a month str8. I think this is the way to go. I believe im a top 10 percentile of better poker players, and i play against the 20 percentile of worst poker players how can you go wrong. /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

[AmericanAirlines]

Seriously, you have never had a losing week? Ever?

I'd love some details on that data. Like how long have you played, what time period do those numbers cover etc.

You know the whole story.

Sincerely,
AA

[AmericanAirlines]

Umm... how long have you been playing... and how long of a period of not having a losing session are you claiming?

Sincerely,
AA

[gaylord focker]

[Trefo]

I would think there's an exaggeration cause when the cards are running cold and your playing in AC you can still lose to those tourists who hold 9-2 suited against a preflop raise and they flop 2 pair and your holding AA. The games in AC can do that to you so i find it far fetched that you have not run into a string of bad beats in a week....On the other hand, if you haven't had a losing week....kudos...i just think the probability is very low.

[gonores]

If you're averaging 3BB/hr, I find it hard to believe that in a 35 week period, every week would fall between 5BB/hr and .75BB/hr. The tightness required for this low of a deviation I can't imagine you would be able to make 3BB/hr.

[Jimbo]

I think I will adopt jayadd as my own personal troll. Hey jayadd, let's go over to RGP nad have some fun. Sic'em boy! Arrrroooohhhhhh!!!!

[jayadd]

like i said earlier 8 months of playing 30-40hrs a week in AC prior to that 6 years of total play. 3bb/hr 1bb/hr you guys are to by the book. When you are playing weaker players those #'s dont mean a thing. Heres an example:
last saturday i sat at the 5-10 kill omaha 8 or better and we had full table about 2400 at table minus my 200 buy in. after 3 hours of play prior to my first break i had a profit of 455. I went got something to eat and came back the table was still full but 2 new faces each with about 200 in front. There was still about 2200 at the table. I scooped 2 pots in a row with 2nd off a kill. i was up to 725 now after 6 hours of play. Im friendly and very talkative at the table. Being young also(27) allows many older men to go on tilt or call me when i have nuts. My goal was 500 and i reached it in 6 hours. I cashed out and headed back home to NY. This was a very good days work but it has been running very well since january. If any of you want to check it out i will be there this weekend and you can see for yourself.

[John Ho]

Omaha is pretty easy. I've never lost in a live game but have only played it 10 times or so at lower limits. But I think this guy is just on a good run of cards.

Eventually, he will hit the shitty runs and let's see how he handles that.

[Homer]

I hope you don't go bust.

[AmericanAirlines]

Jayadd,
I've definetly had games where the hourly rate was in the $100's per hour, even at 1-5 stud. But... over several hundred hours at a view, it always evened out.

Are you saying you've played 6 years and never had a losing week?

Longest stretch I went without a losing session was 16 sessions, in Vegas, at the Mirage, 5-10 stud.

A month later it evened out.

'course at that time I only had about year under my belt. I picked up poker in my late 30's, and literally learned stud at a table in the MGM grand with a list of hand rankings in hand.

Sincerely,
AA

Jayadd,

Could you give me a brief description of yourself? Maybe I can sweat ya when I go to AC. Would love to learn a little that will help me pay my month's rent + utilities. Y'know, I can ekk out my month's rent playing poker but either my phone our my electricity will be turned off at the end of the month. How about it? /forums/images/icons/smile.gif /forums/images/icons/cool.gif

Jayadd,

Would love to sweat ya this Sat. Why not send me a private message with your description so maybe we can meet? /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[Jeffage]

Hey, I'll be in town too Rod....come say hi, and definitely introduce me if you meet this guy =).

Cya at the tables,
Jeff

[PokerAnA]

I think its all about where you have own limits. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

[bad beetz]

just curious, do yo know your BB/hour online win rate, including all limits and life play since start of recording?

just curious, cause that's a win rate I could believe

[Homer]

My online win rate (play only, not counting bonuses) is $.184/hand, which is from playing around 75% 2/4, 20% 3/6, and 5% 5/10. So, I guess you could say on average I was playing 2.35/4.7. If you assume that at a B&M casino you play 40 hands/hr, that is the equivalent of earning about 1.5 BBs/hr playing live. Online I usually play two tables at once (at maybe 60 hands/hr each), so that comes out to 4.5 BBs/hr when playing two tables at a time online.

These numbers aren't exact, but they are very close.

-- Homer