Daliman
02-04-2003, 09:35 PM
I'm about a 195 average bowler and often after league is over i bowl pot games(everyone throws in $5, High game takes all)with some of the other guys in the league, most of whom are within 10 pins of my average in one direction or the other, so I don't sweat the difference either way.
2 weeks ago, however, I didn't get in the pots when a pro who averages 230 got in the pot games, saying that he's win 2 out of 3, to which I heard a chorus of pshaws and "don't be such a wuss"'s. I said i don't mind bowling someone who's better than me if it's within 10 pins or so, but that i'm not going to throw my money away essentially bowling headsup against a guy who's thrown 33 perfect games and 30 consecutive strikes. 3 games later, said pro had shot 225, 226 and 277, and won 2 out of 3 pot games,(came in 2nd the first game).... Said pro decided only to bowl doubles the fourth game, so i rejoined singles(of course, i beat him that game, 225-208, and won the high game pot too,lol), and he completely agreed with my position that he had too much of an overlay on the field. I was thinking that he should put in more money, say 3 to 1($15) to even out the disparity in skill somewhat.
My question is twofold:
1. Is there a way to properly "handicap" him vs. multiple opponents without taking pins off his score(or adding to ours?). Good bowlers are always loath to give pins outside of league, and always want to take them away if they give them and lose.
2. How about against a single opponent? Can some type of poisson-style accurate odds be set up? Kind of like if a team is a 4 point favorite in football, the dog gets 1.6 to 1 on bets. It seems to me someone who averages 20 pins higher than someone else would much rather give 2-1 odds than the 20 pins.
I'm going to see if the poisson spreadsheet on sharpsportsbetting.com seems to shed any light, but any expert input would be greatly appreciated.
2 weeks ago, however, I didn't get in the pots when a pro who averages 230 got in the pot games, saying that he's win 2 out of 3, to which I heard a chorus of pshaws and "don't be such a wuss"'s. I said i don't mind bowling someone who's better than me if it's within 10 pins or so, but that i'm not going to throw my money away essentially bowling headsup against a guy who's thrown 33 perfect games and 30 consecutive strikes. 3 games later, said pro had shot 225, 226 and 277, and won 2 out of 3 pot games,(came in 2nd the first game).... Said pro decided only to bowl doubles the fourth game, so i rejoined singles(of course, i beat him that game, 225-208, and won the high game pot too,lol), and he completely agreed with my position that he had too much of an overlay on the field. I was thinking that he should put in more money, say 3 to 1($15) to even out the disparity in skill somewhat.
My question is twofold:
1. Is there a way to properly "handicap" him vs. multiple opponents without taking pins off his score(or adding to ours?). Good bowlers are always loath to give pins outside of league, and always want to take them away if they give them and lose.
2. How about against a single opponent? Can some type of poisson-style accurate odds be set up? Kind of like if a team is a 4 point favorite in football, the dog gets 1.6 to 1 on bets. It seems to me someone who averages 20 pins higher than someone else would much rather give 2-1 odds than the 20 pins.
I'm going to see if the poisson spreadsheet on sharpsportsbetting.com seems to shed any light, but any expert input would be greatly appreciated.