J9s open raise from MP1

[Buck_65]

Villain defends a little too much in my opinion, but I don't have enough hands on him for a true read. How's the preflop, is this chip spewing? The table was very tight at the time and I was intending on leaving when the blinds came around.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero??

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Villain defends a little too much in my opinion, but I don't have enough hands on him for a true read. How's the preflop, is this chip spewing? The table was very tight at the time and I was intending on leaving when the blinds came around.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero??

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My opinion:

I think it's a bit much. It's still a drawing hand and no good for HU, especially when you know the BB likes to defend. I'd just muck it.

[KDawgCometh]

wayyyyy tooo ambitious from MP1, I can see an argument for raising this from the hijack, but MP1 is just way too early for you to do anything but muck it

[Scott_Baio]

I'm going to assume it was a misclick and now you are stuck in the hand.

Bet turn as last money you put in pot. The important thing here is "last money you put in pot." If you get flat called on turn and improve on river, I'm still folding to a bet and checking behind to a check.

[Buck_65]

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I'm going to assume it was a misclick and now you are stuck in the hand.

Bet turn as last money you put in pot. The important thing here is "last money you put in pot." If you get flat called on turn and improve on river, I'm still folding to a bet and checking behind to a check.

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Not a misclick, just trying to expand my steals. The table hadn't seen a flop in 3 hands, stealing was pretty easy. This is important to know.

[Buck_65]

Takes all the fun out of poker /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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Takes all the fun out of poker /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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I thought you said you were going to quit! /images/graemlins/wink.gif (I hope you do though, your brain cells are valuable and you seem to have plenty of them....hang on to them)

[Buck_65]

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I thought you said you were going to quit! /images/graemlins/wink.gif (I hope you do though, your brain cells are valuable and you seem to have plenty of them....hang on to them)

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Haha, I appreciate the compliment. Everyone seems fairly disgusted with this raise, so I'll spill the beans and say I bet the turn, villain folded. I felt I misplayed the hand on at least one street, possibly two. I'm pretty bad at this game, but somehow managing a respectable winrate at 2/4 over 40k hands...guess this game is easy enough to allow retarded play on occasion.

I hope to hold onto some of these brain cells. I was once quite adept at putting them to use in a productive way. Unfortunately, they've been rapidly diminishing since I've left home for college. And in case anyone cares; no, I'm not even considering playing poker professionally. I'm definitely not cut out for it, and besides, the thought of relying on poker long term for income frightens the hell out of me.

[Siegmund]

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Villain defends a little too much in my opinion

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Um ... maybe villain just realizes he's up against a clown who would try to steal with J9s from MP1?

Too rich for my blood even at a very tight table (and as an Absolute regular believe me I've seen plenty of tight tables.) When you don't pick up the blinds you've pretty much lost the hand.

I can understand the flop bet, heads up against a blind.

One more bet into this pot is enough, maybe more than enough. So, your choice is - bet the turn, and give up if villain doesn't fold, or check-and-call and use that one bet to get a showdown. Depends on how crazy you think Villain is. Against a sane villain you have lost if you don't pick up this pot with a fold on the turn. Against a calling station, trying to fold him out is pointless, and against someone who would checkraise you with undercards to frighten you... who knows.

[Buck_65]

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Um ... maybe villain just realizes he's up against a clown who would try to steal with J9s from MP1?

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