..% m.d.'s who believe in god...

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/images/graemlins/grin.gif 76% of doctors believe in god according to recent poll

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[drudman]

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...which means that people who have an M.D. believe in God less, proportionally, than the general population.

[HDPM]

see, there's why they get sued so much. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Zygote]

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...which means that people who have an M.D. believe in God less, proportionally, than the general population.

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About %99.5 of Americans are not atheists, agnostic or nihilistic, according to a program on CNN. I can't find a link.

[CallMeIshmael]

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About %99.5 of Americans are not atheists, agnostic or nihilistic, according to a program on CNN. I can't find a link.

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WAY too high (http://atheism.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp%3Fname=fte/notbelieveingod/notbelieveingod)

[Zygote]

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About %99.5 of Americans are not atheists, agnostic or nihilistic, according to a program on CNN. I can't find a link.

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WAY too high (http://atheism.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp%3Fname=fte/notbelieveingod/notbelieveingod)

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Well heres something at least close to what i'm saying.

From this link (http://www.teachingaboutreligion.org/Demographics/map_demographics.htm)
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Agnostic: 0.5%
Atheist: 0.4%
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[CallMeIshmael]

FWIW, it appears 13% of the people in that link stated "No Religion"

And you'd have to think some of those dont believe in God... at least, it seems that way.

[Zygote]

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FWIW, it appears 13% of the people in that link stated "No Religion"

And you'd have to think some of those dont believe in God... at least, it seems that way.

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Maybe, but i can't see how they would not be agnostic or atheist if they don't believe in god. regardless, in my post i wasn't stating the amount of americans that don't believe in god, btw.

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FWIW, it appears 13% of the people in that link stated "No Religion"

And you'd have to think some of those dont believe in God... at least, it seems that way.

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I wonder how it counts don't know or unsure. I consider myself in that camp.

[Cerril]

That one talks about how 10% of certain religious groups (and not ones that are usually considered social either) don't believe in god... Now if that isn't a confused group of people, I don't know what is.

[BadBoyBenny]

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regardless, in my post i wasn't stating the amount of americans that don't believe in god, btw.

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Then I don't see what it has to do with the OP's thread.

[CallMeIshmael]

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That one talks about how 10% of certain religious groups (and not ones that are usually considered social either) don't believe in god... Now if that isn't a confused group of people, I don't know what is.

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Well...

For certain religions, the tradition is also very very important.

For example, I have a close Jewish friend who, after he told his family he was agnostic, his grandmother's reaction was: "I dont believe in God either, but I want you to continue the tradition"

I would say the nature of Judaism (small population, storied tradition, struggles with discrimination) make them a prime candidate for this occurance (though Im not about to claim I can really back this up)

[bholdr]

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76% of doctors have their heads up their asses


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FYP. flame on... (would you prefer a religious doc or an athiest? gimme the atheist any day)

BTW, there is a big difference between

"I don't believe in god"
and
"I believe that there is no god"

[CallMeIshmael]

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FYP. flame on... (would you prefer a religious doc or an athiest? gimme the atheist any day)

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No flaming, but: Why?

Do you think an atheist will be a better doctor?

[Zeno]

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Do you think an atheist will be a better doctor?

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A better doctor, better lawyer, better scientist, better lover, better baseball batter, and better looking. The list just goes on and on. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Zeno

[CallMeIshmael]

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A better doctor, better lawyer, better scientist, better lover, better baseball batter, and better looking. The list just goes on and on. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Zeno

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Any reasoning behind this, or just a stereotype?

[bronzepiglet]

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Do you think an atheist will be a better doctor?

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A better doctor, better lawyer, better scientist, better lover, better baseball batter, and better looking. The list just goes on and on. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Zeno

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A better poker theorist? I suppose you think Sklansky doesn't cut it for this reason.

[vulturesrow]

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A better doctor, better lawyer, better scientist, better lover, better baseball batter, and better looking. The list just goes on and on. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Zeno

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So much for that Newton guy.

[Zeno]

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Any reasoning behind this, or just a stereotype?

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Some Humor?

A little Sarcasm?

A wobbly Joke?


People need to relax a bit more; have a beer. Life is too short to take everything so seriously.


-Zeno

[CallMeIshmael]

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Some Humor? ...A wobbly Joke?

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It sure didnt seem like a joke. But, ok.

[bholdr]

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So much for that Newton guy.

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somewhat related example: Einstien's religious predijuces kept him from accepting or contributing to the study of quantum mechanics... he could definitly been a better scientist had he been an athiest, as, IMO, could newton have been. (<----grammatical butcher= bholdr)

[vulturesrow]

Newton's drive in science was fueled by his belief in God. I think you are wrong there. As for Einstein, my understanding is that his religious belief were a quais-Deist type, and not particularly strong. Is the example you referred to where the quote "God doesnt play dice with the universe" comes from?

[KaneKungFu123]

"do u believe in god?" is too general a question.

everyone is like "yeah sure i do" but they believe in their god.

"so you believe in god right."

yeah

"so fags go to hell?"

no.

a better question is how many doctors think the bible is a crock. i am sure that number is higher...

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[Zeno]

" It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systemtically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbound admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

-From Albert Einstein, The Human Side, ed. H. Dukas and B. Hoffman (Princeton, Princeton University Press, 1981).


" I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own - a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly preceive, and try humbly to comprehand even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature."

-Albert Einstein, from Living Philosophies A Series of Intimate Credos, Simon and Schuster, New York, 1933.

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[vulturesrow]

Zeno,

Thanks for the quotes. It is my understanding that near the end of his life Einstein did in fact say something that indicated he might have a belief in a god similar to what I originally posted. Ill have to research that one.

[Zeno]

Einstein used 'God' as a metaphor for the 'unknown', it is a useful term in cultural context but unfortunet in many ways. Richard Dawkins wrote a good essay on this subject called 'Snake Oil and Holy Water' in Forbes ASAP October 4, 1999. This same essay was republished as 'The Great Convergence' in Dawkin's book titled: A Devil's Chaplin.

It was probably Einstein's preconcieved notions about how the universe 'should work' that may have impeded him making contributions to quantum mechanics, not any real religious convictions. In my opinon. Only Einstein knows for sure. And he is dead. And in Hell according to some people.

-Zeno

[JMP300z]

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That one talks about how 10% of certain religious groups (and not ones that are usually considered social either) don't believe in god... Now if that isn't a confused group of people, I don't know what is.

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Well...

For certain religions, the tradition is also very very important.

For example, I have a close Jewish friend who, after he told his family he was agnostic, his grandmother's reaction was: "I dont believe in God either, but I want you to continue the tradition"

I would say the nature of Judaism (small population, storied tradition, struggles with discrimination) make them a prime candidate for this occurance (though Im not about to claim I can really back this up)

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This is spot on for lots of Jewish people. Me and many friends I know who are also Jewish consider it as much as a tradition/culture as a religion. Just because we stop believing in the religion doesnt negate the fact that we are jews.

-JP