what if.....

[cball86]

just something i was thiking about. what would happen if in a 20 dollar party sng for example, if all 10 people went all in the very first hand. one person wins the hand and takes first but what happens to the prizes for 2nd and 3rd?

[HesseJam]

I guess they all tie for the remaining 5 buyins.

Of course, at least the two blinds should never ever call the other 8 allins even if they had AA.

[GrekeHaus]

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Of course, at least the two blinds should never ever call the other 8 allins even if they had AA.

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What if the all-in didn't happen at once, but instead it was a series of min-raises?

[HesseJam]

It doesn't matter. The last two that are not allin should fold, even if they had AA and only 1 chip left. AA is only 30 % against 9 random hands => EV = 30% x 5 buy ins = 1.5 buyins + 70% x 5 buy ins / 9 (if 2nd and 3rd is chopped 9 way) = 1.88 buyins. If you fold you are guaranteed to get 2 buyins and have a shot at 2nd place if the other fold is at the same chip size.

[cball86]

i know that they should fold but i just wondered if partys software would know what to do. it would be funny if the entire system went down because of 10 fish in a sit and go.

[treeofwisdom7]

lets find 10 people and do this. i wanna find out whats gonna happen

[runner4life7]

ill do it at a 5+1

[Big Limpin']

The 9 losers all tie for the 2nd/3rd prizes. In a $22, thats $60/9 + $40/9 = $11.11 per
Also, it doesnt matter how the money gets in, be it push-> 9xcall or minraising back and forth. Rankings are determined by # of chips at start of hand , not who gets allin first.

ANd yes, the PP software does calculate theis automatically. At least for two-way ties. Ive been tied shortstack when 4 handed, we both got in, we bot lose, and we both got a $20 prize from a $22 (half of 3rd place)

[junkmail3]

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The 9 losers all tie for the 2nd/3rd prizes. In a $22, thats $60/9 + $40/9 = $11.11 per
Also, it doesnt matter how the money gets in, be it push-> 9xcall or minraising back and forth. Rankings are determined by # of chips at start of hand , not who gets allin first.

ANd yes, the PP software does calculate theis automatically. At least for two-way ties. Ive been tied shortstack when 4 handed, we both got in, we bot lose, and we both got a $20 prize from a $22 (half of 3rd place)

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Ignore this post and try it.

[cball86]

ill do it in a 5+1. the hard part is filling one up with just us. but im game if we can get enough people

[DJ Sensei]

Whatever happened to the better losing hand taking a higher place?

I seem to recall playing in at least a few STTs where 3 of us were all in, and the order of finish was decided by who had the second best hand after the river.

Maybe I just wasnt paying attention and it was starting stack size (2 short stacks getting busted by a big one, the shorter shortstack gets the lower place)...

Anybody know for sure?

[zipppy]

This is completely worth blowing $6 to try in a SNG.

Worst case scenario: only 6 2+2ers make it into the SNG, we all go allin first hand with such holdings as 95o and 34s. then we stick around and listen to $6 SNG players tell us how awful we play, while we defen our hands (but they were sooooted....)

[Newt_Buggs]

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The 9 losers all tie for the 2nd/3rd prizes. In a $22, thats $60/9 + $40/9 = $11.11 per
Also, it doesnt matter how the money gets in, be it push-> 9xcall or minraising back and forth. Rankings are determined by # of chips at start of hand , not who gets allin first.

ANd yes, the PP software does calculate theis automatically. At least for two-way ties. Ive been tied shortstack when 4 handed, we both got in, we bot lose, and we both got a $20 prize from a $22 (half of 3rd place)

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Ignore this post and try it.

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lol, I'de do it

[cball86]

can we make a private table to do this?

[jon462]

im quite sure this has happenned several times on the play money tables, if the software couldnt handle it PP woulda crashed by now..

[valenzuela]

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ill do it at a 5+1

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this is stupid and nonsense, U want to reduce the -Ev and the way of doing so is playing the 11s /images/graemlins/mad.gif. Someone can to send an email to party...