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outofstep
06-29-2005, 11:10 PM
I've been playing .5/1.00 full0ring Holdem for about at a year now with a very successful winrate. I would like to switch to playing SNGs now, sticking to limit hold'em of course.

Are there any helpful links or books to get me started?
What are some key differences that I need to recognize and change from .5/1.00 to SNG transition? What aspects of the game should I now focus on?
Thanks for all the help.

pergesu
06-29-2005, 11:15 PM
You might wanna try no limit, just cause there's a lot more info about it here.

But basically, as the blinds go up relative to your stack, you'll need to be more aggressive. A decent limit ring game player should be able to beat SNGs no problem, as long as you ramp up the aggression towards the end.

Freudian
06-29-2005, 11:28 PM
I think NLHE SnGs are the hardest to beat. Whenever I try the others (limit, omaha, 7 stud) I often make the money without knowing what I am doing.

As for the limit HE SnGs. Tight early. Play your strong hands aggressively. When blinds go up try to steal as much as you can. Usually people are in every hand early on so a bunch of the bad players have very low/very big stacks.

brian8065
06-29-2005, 11:33 PM
I play limit SnG's like I throw left handed. Awful.

Freudian
06-29-2005, 11:37 PM
Im going to try an experiment.

$5+1 Limit HE SnG.

I will fold everything except AA-JJ, AK-AQs.

I think it is possible to almost fold your way ITM in these things. If it goes well I will try again with a tighter range.

jeffraider
06-29-2005, 11:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Im going to try an experiment.

$5+1 Limit HE SnG.

I will fold everything except AA-JJ, AK-AQs.

I think it is possible to almost fold your way ITM in these things. If it goes well I will try again with a tighter range.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ooh interesting! Keep us updated, sir! I love experiments.

Freudian
06-29-2005, 11:54 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Im going to try an experiment.

$5+1 Limit HE SnG.

I will fold everything except AA-JJ, AK-AQs.

I think it is possible to almost fold your way ITM in these things. If it goes well I will try again with a tighter range.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ooh interesting! Keep us updated, sir! I love experiments.

[/ QUOTE ]

Getting AJ in BB and a xxJ flop kinda ruined it. Then in SB I had to complete for 5 more chips with T9s and flop was xx9 which held up. I would have folded both for a raise though. I am already up to 1190 without really playing anything apart from those two blind hands.

MastiffPaul
06-30-2005, 12:27 AM
I'm trying the same thing... and my slump has followed me over into this piddly little game. I can't stand it.

(50/100)
(Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 5: TxSissy56 ( $745 )
Seat 8: mangosj ( $1390 )
Seat 9: Ms_Phils ( $70 )
Seat 3: MastiffPaul ( $880 )
Seat 1: jrystrom1 ( $1730 )
Seat 10: sosafado ( $655 )
Seat 6: UCBayer ( $500 )
Seat 4: jchin02 ( $780 )
Seat 2: tucsonmamma ( $1250 )
Trny:13525059 Level:3
Stakes (50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MastiffPaul [ Ks Kd ]
Ms_Phils calls [50].
sosafado folds.
jrystrom1 folds.
tucsonmamma folds.
MastiffPaul raises [100].
jchin02 calls [100].
TxSissy56 folds.
UCBayer folds.
mangosj calls [50].
Ms_Phils is all-In [20]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 9d, 7d ]
mangosj checks.
MastiffPaul bets [50].
jchin02 calls [50].
mangosj calls [50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
mangosj checks.
MastiffPaul bets [100].
jchin02 calls [100].
mangosj calls [100].
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
mangosj checks.
MastiffPaul bets [100].
jchin02 calls [100].
mangosj folds.
MastiffPaul shows [ Ks, Kd ] two pairs, kings and nines.
jchin02 shows [ Ah, As ] two pairs, aces and nines.

Freudian
06-30-2005, 12:34 AM
It's level 7 and four players left. I am last with 745 chips. I have only gotten one hand I played. AA which my opponent folded to on the flop. Had one AQo but since it wasn't suited I had to fold.

The biggest problem is that the other players keep taking turn winning pots from each other with horrible play. So they aren't eliminated.

Fun conversation at my table

Symbo: <my nick> is playing TIGHT
coolme111: yup
coolme111: whats that about, <my nick>?
Symbo: huh?
<my nick>: Patience is a virtue

Symbo: don't be scared to lose...otherwise you will
coolme111: words of wisdom

Freudian
06-30-2005, 12:38 AM
Update. I ended 3rd. Third stack got all his chips in with AK vs 22 on a rag flop. I had 445 chips. Blinds 150/300.

I played one hand outside the blinds. But I got some help from the 300 chips I made from the blinds in level 1.

valejo
06-30-2005, 12:41 AM
Pretty interesting experiment. Sounds hella boring, though.

lastchance
06-30-2005, 12:42 AM
Really got to step your aggression at the end like NLHE, huh?

MastiffPaul
06-30-2005, 12:42 AM
My AQo was reraised by KTs with 5 left. Maybe I should have folded preflop, or on the flop when it missed my hand--although I had overcards I believed were good. As it turned out, he paired his ten. I was pot-committed, I thought, and so I took it to the river. I'm terrible.

Freudian
06-30-2005, 12:46 AM
I think you could actually make money in these things by just playing premium hands and folding everything else.

They are so filled with poor players that selfdestruct.

edit: Folding 95% of hands while ITM is probably not going to give a lot of 1sts of course.

jeffraider
06-30-2005, 04:11 AM
hey guys

I"M DRUNK
I WILL BE DONG AN EXPRIMENT!

5/1 SNG

LIMIT
I WILL ATTEMPT TO WIN THE TOURNY BY LVL2

jeffraider
06-30-2005, 04:12 AM
TABLE 11920

GrekeHaus
06-30-2005, 04:38 AM
Which one are you...the one who's lost all his chips?

Swedebubba
06-30-2005, 04:46 AM
yep...he's Conky and he's playing some crazy ass poker

jeffraider
06-30-2005, 06:39 AM
STT REPORT

LVL1

Cap preflop with T3o. Cap flop of J53. Time out on turn because Stargate SG-1 is on. Have another beverage.

LVL2

Return at end of Level 2 with 600 chips. Cap preflop with JJ. Cap flop of KQ2. Cap T turn. Cap ace river. Split pot with J2o LOL.

LVL3 lose all chips except for 145 somehow. Can't recall details.

LVL4

Move ALL EEN with some sort of hand. Can't recal either but limit is for sissies. Proceed to finish 8th.

STT report 2

Play g00t Stud/8 but finish 5th in a 50/5 play money STT. [censored] donkey rivermonkeys.

Beverage report.

LOTS.

Drug report.

None....

YET

edited for spellings