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Ray Zee
02-02-2003, 08:33 PM
picasso is my favorite so i am biased and you should pay no attention to this post.
le mystere picasso= the mystery of picasso. great movie made in the 1950's and released a few years back. mostly he paints from behind a board and you get to watch. fantastic.
another movie that i liked better still was picasso on picasso. same type of format.

sorry to bore the real men but happy to entertain the wussies.

Mark Heide
02-02-2003, 09:56 PM
Ray,

There's still hope for you. I've got a Picasso poster in my kitchen, and it's the most appropriate place for it considering the subject of the painting.

Here's another film for you. Go see Antonio Gaudi by Hiroshi Teshigahara. Gaudi was a Spanish architect whose work influenced Picasso, Miro, and Dali. The film also includes an excellent soundtrack by Toru Takemitsu.

Happy viewing

Mark

Timer
02-02-2003, 10:05 PM
Ray, I saw the Picasso movie you are referring to and it was fascinating. Also, did you know they destroyed all of the paintings he made for that movie. Millions of dollars up in smoke.

I recently saw the movie "Frida." It is about an artist that was married to a very famous Mexican artist, whose name escapes me. This was an excellent movie I think you might enjoy.

PS They keep paging a Ray Z at the Commerce Club. Are you in town?

Ray Zee
02-02-2003, 10:58 PM
timer, it was diego rivera. he did wonderful murels. if you get to san fran. go to the art college near the wharf. they have a great one there. and a good place to eat a meal and look out over the bay for 5 bucks.

no i am in montana. there are a few guys going by ray z in the poker world. i havent eliminated them all yet.

HDPM
02-02-2003, 11:28 PM
Easy now, I bought the DVD of Amelie at Costco to test out my new DVD player on your recommendation. Have not watched it, but assume I can without selling my guns or buying a miata or vw new beetle.

Zeno
02-03-2003, 12:42 AM
"I recently saw the movie "Frida." It is about an artist that was married to a very famous Mexican artist, whose name escapes me."

Frida Kahlo was married to Diego Rivera, one of the greatest muralists and painters of Mexico.

-Zeno

Zeno
02-03-2003, 12:46 AM
Mark,

A question. I heard or read somewhere that DALI made or was involved in making a film back in the 20's or 30's. Do you know anything about it? The surrealist in me wants to know. Thanks.

-Zeno

Ray Zee
02-03-2003, 01:00 AM
i dont think he did as he was born in the early 1900's, so he would have been fairly young and unrecognized then.

John Cole
02-03-2003, 01:23 AM
Zeno,

Dali teamed up with Luis Bunuel for two films, Un Chein Andalou and L'Age D'Or, and later he worked with Alfred Hitchcock to stage the dream sequence in Spellbound. The first two are by far the best.

John

John Cole
02-03-2003, 01:31 AM
Ray,

Thanks for the entertainment. I've seen it on VHS, but I've heard it's played recently on the screen. Now, we might as well go for the Clouzot triology and add Diabolique to The Wages of Fear and The Mystery of Picasso as must see films.

BTW, a few years ago I saw an exhibition of Picasso's early work in Boston; it was fascinating to see the changes and development. A few works were included that were done before he was thirteen.

John

Zeno
02-03-2003, 01:37 AM
John,

Thanks for the information. I'll make an effort to try and find these films and watch them.

Ray dropped the ball on this one. /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif
Good thing you are around to rebound and put it back up for the slam dunk. /forums/images/icons/grin.gif Good Job.

-Zeno

Ray Zee
02-03-2003, 01:41 AM
zeno, i had no idea. i was thinking about an art film. i know little of his life just having enjoyed his murels.
go away john, you are ruining my reputation.

Ray Zee
02-03-2003, 01:45 AM
john, i made a point to see the picasso museum in paris. that was a treat.

i think that was the only clouzot thing ive seen. i wasnt impressed with anything in the creation, just by picasso.

wren
02-03-2003, 02:55 AM
Ray,

I liked "The Mystery of Picasso" as well. He would paint the most amazing things on that screen and then say: "this is garbage!" and scribble it out.

The Picasso Museum in Paris is pretty cool, too.

The most beautiful film I've ever seen is the Japanese classic "Ugetsu." Anyone else know of it?

John Cole
02-03-2003, 03:24 AM
Ray,

I knew you were thinking of art films along the lines of Picasso. Your reputation is still intact.

John

John Cole
02-03-2003, 03:32 AM
Wren,

Ugetsu made my top ten "artsy" films. I've only seen it in a theater once, but it's very memorable.

John

Mark Heide
02-04-2003, 04:55 AM
Zeno,

There is a special edition of Hitchcock's Spellbound available from www.criterionco.com. (http://www.criterionco.com.) As John stated it contains the Dali dream sequence. But, what is special about this edition is that its a complete restoration of the film with Miklos Rozsa's score, and the use of the first electronic instrument known as the Theremin. This film was released in 1945. It is one of my favorite Hitchcock films because they decided to use a great artist, monumental classical composer, and an electronic instrument. This is a film that proves Hollywood can be creative and entertaining. You probably will never see a film out of Hollywood that would attempt to include great art and music again. Today, Hollywood has decided to ignore todays great artists and musicians in favor of commercialism, and the management of the studios is now run by accountants.

You can buy this film from www.dvdplanet.com (http://www.dvdplanet.com) (they have the best discount).

If you are a fan of surrealistic art, you'll love the film Antonio Gaudi. This is a film about his architecture, and after you see how unusual it was, and how it influenced the great surrealist artists of the 20th Century.

Good Luck

Mark

Timer
02-05-2003, 12:38 AM
BTW, a few years ago I saw an exhibition of Picasso's early work in Boston;>>

There will be a Picasso exhibition in New York sometime this month I believe. Maybe someone has more details. I'd love to see it.

By the way, check out my friend's web site. He is an artist-poker player and does some fine impressionist and cubism work. (I especially like his "Woman with Dove.")

DavidSmira (http://www.davidsmira.com)