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Bigwig
06-29-2005, 01:49 PM
Now that I have the multi-monitor setup, I'm curious as to what you think I should do. Continue to work up to 8 tables, or move up in limits? I'm 4 tabling the $50s now, with ~18% ROI over about 1800 of them.

Please add your comments as well as your vote.

Thanks.

Chaostracize
06-29-2005, 01:51 PM
I would say even drop down to the 30s and multi table them. Just play 100 and get the hang of it, then move up to the 50s for a while.

kyro
06-29-2005, 01:52 PM
Why did you buy the second monitor if you weren't going to 8table?

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 01:52 PM
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I would say even drop down to the 30s and multi table them. Just play 100 and get the hand of it, then move up to the 50s for a while.

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Well, I'm not going to jump from 4 to 8 tables like many do. I'd add one table at a time, do a set of 500, and evaluate if I'm ready for another.

So I don't intend on dropping limits. I'm too comfortable with the 1000 chips now.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 01:54 PM
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Why did you buy the second monitor if you weren't going to 8table?

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I like to surf when I play.

But even if I moved up the $100s, I'd eventually start adding tables to get to 8. I'm in no rush. I'm making plenty of cash at this level and at my part-time real job.

kyro
06-29-2005, 01:55 PM
Then just do the 55s for now. You won't be adding tables at the $109s for a while I assume.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 02:11 PM
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Then just do the 55s for now. You won't be adding tables at the $109s for a while I assume.

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No. I'd want to get about 2000 under my belt before adding tables.

If I stay at the $50s and learn to 8 table, I'd add $100s one at a time.

kyro
06-29-2005, 02:15 PM
I'd rather learn at a lower level before I step up...even just adding one at a time, but that's just me.

Apathy
06-29-2005, 02:44 PM
How many 109s have you played? (lifetime)
How many 215s have you played? (lifetime)

valenzuela
06-29-2005, 02:46 PM
My humble opinion thinks you should move up, not because of proft but because I think you will improve more by moving up rather than by adding more tables. Just my $0.02

jcm4ccc
06-29-2005, 02:48 PM
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My humble opinion thinks you should move up, not because of ROI but because I think you will improve more by moving up rather than by adding more tables. Just my $0.02

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TheUsher
06-29-2005, 03:55 PM
Mix in some 109's with your current set of 4 and see how well you do with those. Probably about time to move up by now and then you could think about adding more tables at the 109 level once you're comfortable. You could do it. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:12 PM
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How many 109s have you played? (lifetime)
How many 215s have you played? (lifetime)

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I've only played multis that were $200+.

I've only played a couple of dozen $100s. All were on PokerStars way back when I one-tabled over a year ago.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:14 PM
Not that it matters much but the ROI I mentioned is before rakeback. With rakeback I'm just over ~20%.

I wish there were clearly more votes for one option than the other. It appears the board is just as conflicted as I am on this subject.

the_joker
06-29-2005, 04:20 PM
Ok, this isn't one of your options, but how about playing 3 tables at $50 and 1 of $100 and see how it goes.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:23 PM
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Ok, this isn't one of your options, but how about playing 3 tables at $50 and 1 of $100 and see how it goes.

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If I switched to $100s that's exactly how I would do it.

adanthar
06-29-2005, 04:30 PM
I'm in close to the same boat...quadding the 100's, but once I'm done with bar review and move in a month I'm buying myself a couple of LCD's and teaching myself eight tabling.

What I'll probably do is just 6 table the 100's and then 8 table after a few hundred of those. Assuming you know you're a winning player and have a large roll I think taking some increased variance is probably fine. If worst comes to worst, just fold PF early more often until you find yourself catching up on reads.

Myst
06-29-2005, 04:35 PM
IT depends on what your goal is:

If you want to max our your hourly rate, than Id go with 8 tabling the 55s first.

If you want to learn the game faster, and in the long term, make money faster, than go with the $109s.

This is of course assuimng you dont have any bankroll problems for either scenario.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:35 PM
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I'm in close to the same boat...quadding the 100's, but once I'm done with bar review and move in a month I'm buying myself a couple of LCD's and teaching myself eight tabling.

What I'll probably do is just 6 table the 100's and then 8 table after a few hundred of those. Assuming you know you're a winning player and have a large roll I think taking some increased variance is probably fine. If worst comes to worst, just fold PF early more often until you find yourself catching up on reads.

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So you're in the 8 table first, move up second group?

jcm4ccc
06-29-2005, 04:40 PM
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Ok, this isn't one of your options, but how about playing 3 tables at $50 and 1 of $100 and see how it goes.

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If I switched to $100s that's exactly how I would do it.

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Come on, Bigwig, that's a terrible idea. You will have no idea about the $100s if you play that few. You understand about a small sample size and everything.

By my calculations, your bankroll should be around $18000, so that should be no problem. Here's the question for you: do you want to be a grinder and generate the most money possible in the shortest amount of time, or do you want to improve your game? If you're just trying to make money, 8 table the $50s. If you want to get better, 4 table the $100s.

Play about 500 $100s and evaluate how you're doing. Even if you hit a bad run, you probably won't drop more than $5000, and you might do very well. Once you've reached the top of where you want to be ($100s or $200s), then start adding in more tables.

Jesus man, you have an 18% ROI at the $50s. Time to move up.


your wig may be big but your balls appear to be
small

adanthar
06-29-2005, 04:50 PM
I would say so just because if you're gonna eight table you may as well start out at the limits you know.

Then again, if I were you I'd have moved up ages ago. I think some of the 'you must play 500 SNG's to even think about it' advice around here is really overdone.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:51 PM
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Ok, this isn't one of your options, but how about playing 3 tables at $50 and 1 of $100 and see how it goes.

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If I switched to $100s that's exactly how I would do it.

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Come on, Bigwig, that's a terrible idea. You will have no idea about the $100s if you play that few. You understand about a small sample size and everything.

By my calculations, your bankroll should be around $18000, so that should be no problem. Here's the question for you: do you want to be a grinder and generate the most money possible in the shortest amount of time, or do you want to improve your game? If you're just trying to make money, 8 table the $50s. If you want to get better, 4 table the $100s.

Play about 500 $100s and evaluate how you're doing. Even if you hit a bad run, you probably won't drop more than $5000, and you might do very well. Once you've reached the top of where you want to be ($100s or $200s), then start adding in more tables.

Jesus man, you have an 18% ROI at the $50s. Time to move up.


your wig may be big but your balls appear to be
small

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$18000 bankroll?!?!

Does anyone withdraw money around here? I live off my play, you know. I also play cash games and MTTs.

Anyway, I understand what you're saying, but I don't really expect to see some massive difference switching to the $109s. The biggest, IMO, will be the variance. I'm not worried about suddenly having a 5% ROI. I'm just trying to figure out the best path to get to 8 tabling $200s. Which step to take first, you see.

Also, Bigwig is a literary character, not an oversized hairpiece.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 04:53 PM
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I think some of the 'you must play 500 SNG's to even think about it' advice around here is really overdone.

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I agree. It's more psychological for me. I like to 'know,' rather than to 'feel.'

Plus, this is 2/3 of my income. I hate getting frisky.

jcm4ccc
06-29-2005, 05:05 PM
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I'm just trying to figure out the best path to get to 8 tabling $200s. Which step to take first, you see.

Also, Bigwig is a literary character, not an oversized hairpiece.

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If that is your goal, then I think you should 4-table the $109s, not 8-table the $55s. If your bankroll can take the variance. You didn't provide us with that information, but since you are actually using some of your poker money to live on, that's a pretty big piece of the puzzle.

I tried googling BigWig and got over 500,000 entries -- software programs, bands, etc. But I finally figured out that it was Watership Down. Still, I like my poem. I didn't mean it, of course. Just trying to be clever.

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 05:09 PM
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I tried googling BigWig and got over 500,000 entries -- software programs, bands, etc. But I finally figured out that it was Watership Down. Still, I like my poem. I didn't mean it, of course. Just trying to be clever.

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Heh. Bigwig. Not BigWig. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Chaostracize
06-29-2005, 05:36 PM
Bigwig. Is that watership down? Water something. Can't remember...

Bigwig
06-29-2005, 05:40 PM
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Bigwig. Is that watership down? Water something. Can't remember...

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Yup. Watership Down.

Chaostracize
06-29-2005, 05:41 PM
Amazing book.